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EMP Question
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Posted on 05/14/2017 8:30:57 AM PDT by hardspunned

I have been aware of the serious effect an EMP attack would have on our country for some time. I recently read a most terrifying book, One Second After, and am now motivated to better prepare my family for this possibility. My question regards the viability of a 1987 Toyota 4x4 truck with a 22r carbureted engine. I have been told there is a vulnerable component in the non electronic ignition system. My understanding was that old coil, distributor system was safe.

I have the opportunity to purchase this vehicle and would like to be sure that it can be counted on if needed.


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To: hardspunned

If the ignition still has an electronic control module instead of just contact points, perhaps that makes it more susceptible?
Most cars went to modules in the early 70’s.


61 posted on 05/14/2017 9:18:46 AM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our one and only true hope.)
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To: CodeToad

“The dumbing down of America continues, we don’t even know what electricity is anymore.”

Well, you do not have it quite right either. Please stop pretending you know what you are talking about.


62 posted on 05/14/2017 9:18:55 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer

Sorry, I misread your post. I thought were talking voltage instead of V/M.


63 posted on 05/14/2017 9:19:56 AM PDT by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as well say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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To: CodeToad

I thought an EMP of a significant power “melts” or fries or crumps mico-circuits, rendering them non-functional.


64 posted on 05/14/2017 9:20:00 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: hardspunned

bicycle with heavy duty rack is going to be your friend


65 posted on 05/14/2017 9:20:13 AM PDT by vooch (America First)
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To: CodeToad

Remember Y2K? Wasn’t THAT flogged as the worst thing to fear, EVER. And who remembers the destruction and desolation that resulted at the stroke of midnight on December 31, 1999? If it’s true that ultimately there’s no lasting defense against an EMP; then the most important thing one can do is to make their peace with the Creator by accepting Christ as their personal Savior.


66 posted on 05/14/2017 9:20:13 AM PDT by Tucker39 (Known as the Father of modern agriculture)
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To: SaxxonWoods

I bought a MEP-802A military diesel powered generator 2 years ago.It’s EMP hardened and I have 1000 gallons of diesel here on the farm.I suggest everyone get one of these units,it will be a life saver.


67 posted on 05/14/2017 9:20:16 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (Every time a toilet flushes,another liberal gets his brains.)
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To: right way right

“By using some of the logic here an EMP will stop your heart.”

Exactly! ALL electrical signals are interrupted in an EMP, right? Gee, I wonder who discovered EMP since they should have died.


68 posted on 05/14/2017 9:21:59 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement, I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: hardspunned

Instead of wasting my time worrying about the after affects and spending way too much money i would ather use it constructively to put pressure on the motivation to just kill the bastards that threaten us in the first place.


69 posted on 05/14/2017 9:22:15 AM PDT by Daniel Ramsey (Thank YOU President Trump, finally we can do what America does best, to be the best!)
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To: hardspunned

A non-EMP’ed vehicle is good for one thing only...quickly collecting family members that were stranded, and getting them back home.

You may have one, maybe two days to do that. Then, as one of the few operable vehicles around, you become a moving target. After collecting family, you park it and wait for the lights to come back on.


70 posted on 05/14/2017 9:23:09 AM PDT by moovova
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To: raybbr

Voltage is one thing. Field strength (measured in volts/meter) is another. Frequency content is also important. As is frequency response of any unintended receiver.


71 posted on 05/14/2017 9:23:22 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: raybbr

No worries. It can be complicated.


72 posted on 05/14/2017 9:24:26 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer

Your response seems to make the most sense. These spare components, would they be vulnerable requiring shielding?


73 posted on 05/14/2017 9:24:27 AM PDT by hardspunned
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To: Farmer Dean

The Ruskies tested some high altitude nukes which fried many a diesel.


74 posted on 05/14/2017 9:25:43 AM PDT by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything)
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To: Sawdring

I’ve check that out LONG ago. The reason anything in Hawaii was destroyed was that the street lights and the phone line that were affected were connected to very long wires and had no overvoltage protection. An EMP would have some effect, but very little. Your little computers may have to be rebooted, but they won’t be destroyed. Your car may choke for a second or even stop running but will restart just fine. Most systems wouldn’t even notice an EMP.

EMP isn’t a weapon in the US arsenal because it has little effect.

It is ridiculous to think we were doing SDI in the 1980’s when all we had to do was cause a cheap and easy EMP instead.


75 posted on 05/14/2017 9:26:18 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement, I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: moovova

I could noy agree with you more. I will need the truck to drive at most 150 miles to collect my family and to get them to relative safety. After the first day we are staying put.


76 posted on 05/14/2017 9:27:08 AM PDT by hardspunned
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To: Redwood71

” a whole bunch of ICBM’s will follow and we will retaliate to the point of making the earth uninhabitable for a few thousand years.”

Thousands of years, maybe, but consider Hiroshima today:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Hiroshima+Pictures&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjIxd-y5u_TAhVLQiYKHRQxBl0Q_AUIBigB&biw=1024&bih=473&dpr=1.88#hl=en&tbm=isch&q=hiroshima+pictures+now


77 posted on 05/14/2017 9:28:27 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: hardspunned

If the ignition still has an electronic control module instead of just contact points, perhaps that makes it more susceptible?
Most cars went to modules in the early 70’s.


78 posted on 05/14/2017 9:28:47 AM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our one and only true hope.)
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To: Hulka

“I thought an EMP of a significant power “melts” or fries or crumps mico-circuits, rendering them non-functional.”

That’s a pretty accurate description of the semiconductor failure mode. Radiated energy from an emp couples to conductors. If it’s enough energy and it gets to a semiconductor junction, it will arc across it-killing it. It can take as little as 1v to 10v depending on the semiconductor technology to burn it out.


79 posted on 05/14/2017 9:28:56 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I doubt most here will look up info on what you posted even though it documents the initial “Oh shit!” revelations of the impact of an EMP inadvertently released by our early nuclear weapons testing.

EMPs are real. What’s interesting about the Carrington event is I’m not sure they have enough data to create a scale. Carrington may have been a smaller event compared to those experienced by earth over the millennia.


80 posted on 05/14/2017 9:29:09 AM PDT by meatloaf
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