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Is Keto the Cure for Type II Diabetes?
Reason ^ | Feb. 28, 2018 | Mike Riggs

Posted on 02/28/2018 12:22:07 PM PST by nickcarraway

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To: catnipman

Yep. Just telling people the truth and not subsidizing drug alternatives should get most of them there.

We’ve given them diabetes-worsening advice and diets for decades.


21 posted on 02/28/2018 12:52:06 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Fido969

Exactly.

The hype over this is ridiculous. I know a guy and his wife with whom we all engaged the Atkins thing when it was popular, long before I got my health back and wrote my books.

He’s doing Keto and raving about it, oblivious that it’s no different than Atkins. He WILL plateau, and he WILL see his health go to crap...again.

Atkins/Keto is not healthful, though I will not argue that it has a therapeutic aspect if used to transition a lifestyle.

“Diet” et all are all 4-letter words in my book (literally and figuratively).

I should really finish the article about this which I began after being told that he was on Keto...


22 posted on 02/28/2018 12:54:21 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: catnipman

I’ve lost 25 pounds on a HFLC diet since last September, with 15-20 more to go.


Bravo my friend. Way to go! Keep it up!

I started the Keto diet around 2 weeks ago with my friend who wanted a little motivation except I decided to go cold turkey on my ban of sugars and carbs. It’s been tough but I feel great. Ive always worked out everyday, both cardio and weight training and don’t really have a problem with weight, I just want to tone up and be healthy. I had no idea I was taking in so many refined sugars and carbs every time I ate. Actually, I did and just kinda chose to ignore it because Im already pretty active.


23 posted on 02/28/2018 12:55:27 PM PST by hillarys cankles
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To: catnipman
“Permanent weight loss without bariatric surgery is practically impossible at the population level.”

They mean "the population of the United States," rather than "a population of one."

24 posted on 02/28/2018 12:55:32 PM PST by Tax-chick (I'm being sarcastic, but a lot of you aren't.)
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To: nickcarraway

The short answer is yes and I’m living proof.


25 posted on 02/28/2018 1:10:20 PM PST by pgkdan (The Silent Majority STILL Stands With TRUMP!)
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To: nickcarraway

This requires gobs of will power.


26 posted on 02/28/2018 1:11:08 PM PST by umgud
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To: nickcarraway

Fasting...intermittent even, works


27 posted on 02/28/2018 1:13:43 PM PST by goodnesswins (There were 1.41 MILLION NON Profit orgs in 2013 with $1.73 TRILLION in REVENUE)
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To: umgud

Not if you eat enough fat


28 posted on 02/28/2018 1:14:53 PM PST by goodnesswins (There were 1.41 MILLION NON Profit orgs in 2013 with $1.73 TRILLION in REVENUE)
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To: nickcarraway

I got a flu shot today, and it was kinda neat. What she did was to swab the skin, dry it off, put a little band-aid on, and administer the shot through the band-aid. Hah.

As there a diabetes vaccine yet?


29 posted on 02/28/2018 1:16:08 PM PST by sparklite2 (See more at Sparklite Times)
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To: nickcarraway

Type 2 diabetes leads to alzheimers


30 posted on 02/28/2018 1:18:09 PM PST by goodnesswins (There were 1.41 MILLION NON Profit orgs in 2013 with $1.73 TRILLION in REVENUE)
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To: z3n
Carbs cause people to get fat. Type II diabetes is a disease of carbohydrate intolerance (insulin is the bodies response to carbohydrate intake).

Most diabetics are simply people who overwhelmed their pancreas with carbs (and why they're fat). Therefore the non-medical cure for diabetes is a ketogenic diet (extremely low carb diet). For them, ketogenic diets result in weight loss.
BTW- some of us are not fat but get diabetes anyway. Our bodies have an abnormally low tolerance for carbs. The cure is the same, a ketogenic diet. No weight will be lost but the result of normalized insulin production is the same.

31 posted on 02/28/2018 1:22:30 PM PST by Varda (Liberalism IS hate)
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https://www.atkins.com/how-it-works/atkins-40

Same as Atkins. Trick is learning to cut out sugars and carbs.


32 posted on 02/28/2018 1:25:40 PM PST by mouse1
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To: z3n

My Dad had type II diabetes. He was 5’10” and weighed 170 lbs. He died of Kidney disease.

How much weight should he have lost to reverse the disease?

A friend of mine has type II diabetes and I don’t think she weighs 100 lbs.

Watch Forks over Knives.


33 posted on 02/28/2018 1:29:17 PM PST by No Socialist
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To: goodnesswins
Fasting...intermittent even, works

Yep, one meal a day for me.
34 posted on 02/28/2018 1:35:12 PM PST by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: BobL

Exactly the message that is contained in the book, “The Obesity Code” by Dr. Jason Fung. Fasting is the key.


35 posted on 02/28/2018 1:35:17 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Perhaps we should care less about who we may offend and care more about who we may inspire.)
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To: No Socialist

I see non overweight type two diabetics in the VA hospital and clinics with Agent Orange exposure diabetes. Would love to
o see someone tell them they did it to themselves.


36 posted on 02/28/2018 1:35:36 PM PST by redcatcherb412 (Emerged intact.)
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To: z3n

If the reduction of weight is the answer, then why do thin people get Type II also? When I contracted, officially, type II I was 185 pound on a six foot one frame, in outstanding shape in the military. So I was exercising, I was at a proper weight, I was able to say I was in excellent shape and beyond.....what does weight loss say about that?

There are a number of reasons for people getting the disease. I’m a believer in heredity. I am hyper like my dad. My brother who was 6” 7”, and weighed 250 and rowed a boat against the current of the Snake River in Montana for hours almost daily, was hypo. My body rejected my insulin starting the 1985. After all this time I currently use two types of injected insulin and oral applications. And there is no way I will ever get off them.

I retired from officiating sports at different levels a few years ago. I still work out, but not like that. And my levels have not changed one bit.

Always be skeptical of people that say they have a cure for something they are going to sell. If it looks that good, it probably isn’t.

rwood


37 posted on 02/28/2018 1:36:13 PM PST by Redwood71
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To: BBB333
I was diagnosed 20 years ago with pre-diabetes. I asked the doc what that meant and he said that if I continued to eat the same way I had been, that eventually it would develop into full-blown diabetes. Too many calories from processed carbohydrates he said.

That scared me. So I went home and started researching the combination of high HDL cholesterol and high triglycerides on the internet and found that just changing my diet would help a lot.

So the very next day I changed my diet. More proteins, fats and simple carbs and drank lots of water. No processed carbs or sugars. It wasn't that hard. I got to eat three or more meals a day and always felt full with lots of energy.

What happened next was amazing. When I returned to the doctor after three months, I had lost 38 lbs. and all of my blood work was back to normal. I was no longer pre-diabetic. The doc was shocked. He said no one ever listened to his advice. But I did and it made a dramatic improvement to my health.

My brother-in-law had Type II diabetes for several years. When I shared my weight loss and labs results with him, he couldn't believe it. He changed his diet too. 8 months later, he had lost 80+ lbs. and was diabetes free.

This keto way of eating may not work for everyone but it worked for me and dramatically worked for my brother-in-law. We both have kept up with this way of eating with some exceptions (I just turned 70 and had a big piece of my birthday cake) and are feeling better because of the diet.

The government food pyramid is upside down and wrong. It would be more accurate if the pyramid sat on its peak instead of on its base.

38 posted on 02/28/2018 1:38:30 PM PST by HotHunt
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To: Fido969

It is different from Atkins, in that protein is limited. Atkins originally let people eat all the protein they wanted.

Also, Atkins allowed increase in carbs as the diet progressed. The keto diet is tailored to only the amount of carbs that will keep you in dietary ketosis. For some people who are severely obese, have pre-diabetes, metabolic syndrome, other illnesses, only total 20 carbs a day are suggested.

Younger people with healthy metabolisms can eat a few more carbs, but these are to come from above ground veggies and maybe a few berries.

The remainder of your calories will come from “good fats”. These are ghee, coconut oil, olive oil, butter, bacon fat, tallow, lard - mostly put animal fats.

Dr. Eric Westman has many really good videos on youtube that explain all the research and results of the keto diet - some very technical, and some for the layperson.


39 posted on 02/28/2018 1:38:42 PM PST by jacquej ("You cannot have a conservative government with a liberal culture." (Mark Steyn))
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To: No Socialist

For people like your Dad a ketogenic diet would have worked but it wouldn’t have resulted in weight loss. It’s too bad they emphasize weight loss with that diet. The diet normalizes weight to whatever normal is for you.


40 posted on 02/28/2018 1:38:46 PM PST by Varda (Liberalism IS hate)
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