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DNA tests for IQ are coming, but it might not be smart to take one
MIT Technology Review ^ | April 2, 2018 | Antonio Regalado

Posted on 04/02/2018 6:59:34 AM PDT by mairdie

Ready for a world in which a $50 DNA test can predict your odds of earning a PhD or forecast which toddler gets into a selective preschool?

Robert Plomin, a behavioral geneticist, says that’s exactly what’s coming.

For decades genetic researchers have sought the hereditary factors behind intelligence, with little luck. But now gene studies have finally gotten big enough—and hence powerful enough—to zero in on genetic differences linked to IQ.

A year ago, no gene had ever been tied to performance on an IQ test. Since then, more than 500 have, thanks to gene studies involving more than 200,000 test takers. Results from an experiment correlating one million people’s DNA with their academic success are due at any time.

The discoveries mean we can now read the DNA of a young child and get a notion of how intelligent he or she will be, says Plomin, an American based at King’s College London, where he leads a long-term study of 13,000 pairs of British twins.

Plomin outlined the DNA IQ test scenario in January in a paper titled “The New Genetics of Intelligence,” making a case that parents will use direct-to-consumer tests to predict kids’ mental abilities and make schooling choices, a concept he calls precision education.

As of now, the predictions are not highly accurate. The DNA variations that have been linked to test scores explain less than 10 percent of the intelligence differences between the people of European ancestry who’ve been studied.

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TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: dna; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; intelligence; iq; jameswatson; junkscience; robertplomin; thebellcurve
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To: Moonman62

I am reminded of regimes like Pol Pot where, if you wore glasses, they figured you were an Intellectual who would probably cause trouble, so they killed you.

The Left doesn’t really like smart people. They like people who think of themselves as smart. A crucial distinction.


41 posted on 04/02/2018 8:15:32 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (I'm still somewhat onboard but very disappointed. Not so much "Winning" lately.)
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To: mairdie

I heard somewhere that these companies are selling their gene databases to Fed.gov

What better way to track, monitor and predict of citizens, and also find the networks among them?


42 posted on 04/02/2018 8:21:49 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: KSCITYBOY
The test will be illegal...

...and required!

43 posted on 04/02/2018 8:22:45 AM PDT by null and void ("We don't let them have ideas. Why would we let them have guns?" ~ Joseph Stalin)
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To: mairdie

In the year 2525


44 posted on 04/02/2018 8:34:18 AM PDT by Gasshog ( Fight climate change - Try beating the air and scream at the sky)
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To: mairdie

You’ll pick your son,pick your daughter too

From the bottom of a long glass tube...whoa-oh-ohh


45 posted on 04/02/2018 8:36:42 AM PDT by Gasshog ( Fight climate change - Try beating the air and scream at the sky)
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To: mairdie

So far all of these studies are ‘association’ studies, which have been notoriously flawed. At this point this is only speculative sensationalism.


46 posted on 04/02/2018 8:37:04 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: mairdie

“DNA studies are rayciss” in 3... 2... 1...


47 posted on 04/02/2018 8:40:29 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Enjoy the decline of the American empire.)
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To: Gasshog

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>> “In the year 2525” <<

If man is still alive, if Hildabeast can survive...


48 posted on 04/02/2018 8:40:41 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: freedumb2003

I suggest delayed gratification is part and parcel of good work ethic but I understand if some might see that as moving the goalpost.

...

I should add that the delay involves a bigger reward.

Get a piece of candy now, or get two pieces in half an hour.


49 posted on 04/02/2018 9:34:01 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: mairdie

What I have noticed is that people with really high IQ’s tend to be the last person to have any common sense when it comes to politics or moral decisions. They may be smart enough to calculate how to land a rocket on Mars and yet vote for Obama and follow anifia.


50 posted on 04/02/2018 9:39:59 AM PDT by Revel
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To: mairdie

What I have noticed is that people with really high IQ’s tend to be the last person to have any common sense when it comes to politics or moral decisions. They may be smart enough to calculate how to land a rocket on Mars and yet vote for Obama and follow antifa.


51 posted on 04/02/2018 9:40:23 AM PDT by Revel
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To: Revel
What I have noticed is that people with really high IQ’s tend to be the last person to have any common sense when it comes to politics or moral decisions. They may be smart enough to calculate how to land a rocket on Mars and yet vote for Obama and follow antifa.

Yep, worked with a mensa women, odd and not that bright on common sense.

52 posted on 04/02/2018 9:43:41 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: rb22982

You are playing in the margins there. Very few people have an IQ of 80 or 180.

The point is, no DNA test is going to tell you if a hard working person with a 100 IQ will be more successful than a lazy person with a 115 IQ. Similarly, no test will tell whether a sober person with a 110 IQ will be more successful than a drunk with a 125 IQ.


53 posted on 04/02/2018 10:56:23 AM PDT by nitzy
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To: ClearCase_guy

But wasn’t Pol Pot an intellectual too? He studied at Sorbonne University in Paris, didn’t he? He should have been principled and killed himself.


54 posted on 04/02/2018 10:57:36 AM PDT by Czech_Occidentalist
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To: nitzy
imilarly, no test will tell whether a sober person with a 110 IQ will be more successful than a drunk with a 125 IQ.

Actually, there are a lot of people with IQs of ~80 (or lower). Roughly 15% of the US population, in fact. There are not many at 180, though, that is for certain. And yes, an IQ test result of 110 or 125 can't guarantee performance (although your example is smaller % of population than my 80 IQ), it massively increases the odds - but those are still for relatively close IQs in the scheme of things. How about a 95 IQ (just a hair below average) vs a 125? The person with 95 IQ will need to work probably 3-5x as hard to get a phd as someone with 125.

55 posted on 04/02/2018 11:13:03 AM PDT by rb22982
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To: nitzy
Similarly, no test will tell whether a sober person with a 110 IQ will be more successful than a drunk with a 125 IQ.

I actually did that test once.

I took an IQ test sober, then had four drinks and took a very similar IQ test.

My IQ as expected, went down by 20 points. I was surprised the decrease was that small.

56 posted on 04/02/2018 11:52:05 AM PDT by seowulf
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To: Revel

“What I have noticed is that people with really high IQ’s ....”

I’m curious how you know peoples’ IQs ????


57 posted on 04/02/2018 1:04:37 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: mairdie
Re-read the Dunning-Kruger Effect. The truly intelligent would worry about passing, the truly stupid would not.

Once people start breeding per their intellectual abilities, Leftism will die out within two generations...

58 posted on 04/02/2018 1:54:56 PM PDT by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

AI will result in a massively overproductive industrial and servicing economy, making a good chunk of the population superfluous, I mean, moreso than now. ;^)

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/jameswatson/index


59 posted on 04/02/2018 2:26:03 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/thebellcurve/index


60 posted on 04/02/2018 2:26:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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