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Posted on 08/06/2018 3:41:55 PM PDT by AAABEST
Okay, I'm the biggest anarcho-capitalist on this board, but this is what happens when capitalism starts producing zombies. The zombies must be put down.
Legions of users subverting the platform can cost them greatly. Maybe a friendly judges or pols can shove something HUGE up their ass.
They have budgets larger than entire nations, and they've basically declared war on us.
The way to bring them to heal is to do what you will not do.
Quit using their sh!t.
It seems to me that there is still plenty of room for the counterculture to leak through the system. I’ve been busy on Facebook and YouTube for I don’t know how long leaving Christian comments and even getting likes on them. It’s not a universal success, but still a high percentage success.
The danger in the biasing of the system lies in people who don’t want to do anything other than go with the flow of the zeitgeist.
And here’s where a guerilla technique can often work: rebuking the trolls, who come into Christian discussions trying to throw stink bombs, but I find them exactly in position to receive beautiful rebukes that give them cause to think and reflect on beautiful things.
I think the best tack we can take is to reach out to people and get them to go against the flow. The world is gonna be the world, and can at best be trimmed around the edges while remaining what it is in the center. Let’s do the thing that we know is spiritual battle.
Do away with all procedural and algorithmic based patents. Meaning no more ‘1 click’ or shelf to customer delivery procedures.
Don’t forget BitChute.com (much better than YouTube)
One thing that IMO could be on the horizon is that one of the primary mechanisms of power of companies like Google and Facebook is data storage. The bad news for them is data storage is getting geometrically cheaper and smaller as time goes on. For example, imagine having your own copy of the entire internet being stored on your home computer and updated multiple times a day. Sounds far fetched but I don't think it is. Everyone could be their own Google. Technology is going to be the death of the technology companies.
AT&T provided telephone services from 1877 to 1984 as a monopoly.
On December 31, 1983, the system was divided into independent companies by a U.S. Justice Department mandate.
Some people would support a lesser principle (That global spanning tech companies are "private" property in the normal sense of the word) over that of a greater principle:
That freedom of speech is absolutely essential to a free people.
I see no existential danger in any of those things.
Did they alter you philosophically? Did you sign up for their sill sh!t?
Did they tell you what to think, and did it work?
In fact, a reason why I hated Net Neutrality was there was NO provision for First Amendment free speech protections under Net Neutrality. If that was in place in writing, that would have changed a lot of things because then the social media sites would have to make serious justifications for censoring anyone.
In theory, don’t use them. In practice, forget about it, the war is over. These are massive international companies with customer counts of a billion or more. A small percentage of the American population boycotting them just doesn’t rate. That’s what happens when a company become the Kleenix of their industry, it’s their, they’re keeping it.
“DEFACTO MONOPOLY!”
Who?
This is exactly right. The founders never envisioned a system in which a "private" company can control so much public speech. To them, only a government would be capable of this.
Their intent was that Freedom of Speech would be guaranteed, and they would not balk at some silly argument that censorship is okay if it is accomplished by a "private" company controlling all the communications infrastructure.
It's time to declare the internet a legal "commons", and forbid censorship on it. (excepting those things which are already illegal.)
d.tube does absolutely nothing when I go there. All I get is a blank screen.
“Their intent was that Freedom of Speech would be guaranteed, and they would not balk at some silly argument that censorship is okay if it is accomplished by a “private” company controlling all the communications infrastructure. “
Just who, or what, is the private company you are referring to?
You left out a step. Grab a half a trillion dollars to build an infrastructure big enough to compete with them.
Till you solve that problem, the rest of your "solutions" are irrelevant.
You must still think this is 1994 or something.
Quit using their sh!t.
So you are telling me that if the Jews had just stopped listening to Hitler's radio broadcasts, it would have stopped him?
Yes, depriving them of audience and revenue will damage them, but the trouble is there are more people who will feed the beast than there are of us to starve it.
BitChute doesn't do anything when I try to watch a video except make lines that go up and down.
The answer is simpler than many can recognize. It comes in the form of WOPR from “Wargames”. Yeah, the early 80s movie.
“The only way to win is not to play.”
Do you think that leftist traitors get all worked up because they can’t touch us when it comes to hunting, farming, fishing and shooting ? Do you think there are ever threads on DU that lament that they can’t shoot like us ? That they can’t grow through personal challenges? Or that they can’t figure out which bathroom to use?
No.
That’s because they don’t play games that they can’t win at. Or even compete at. This is our choice. We will never beat them at a game where they choose the rules, the playing field, the equipment, the cheerleaders, the scoreboard and the concession stands. This is like the struggle of the black golfer. It took a LONG time to break that barrier and we are facing this similar struggle.
Use the internet for email, some forums and some research that you can or can not trust because it was likely written by an insane person. The internet in it’s modern form has disconnected us from who we were - the people who visited friends, read encyclopedias and talked to many people about a subject before calling ourselves knowledgeable. The modern internet has ruined this aspect of ourselves. Return to that. Call up a friend and ask “Hey, who does that song that goes like ‘nahnahnah nah naaaah’”. Disconnect from the disconnect.
As far as challenging the communist, leftist modern internet I’ll address that one at a time.
FACEBOOK: F*** Facebook. They have everyone hooked there because it’s now the only way that people communicate. The truth is that the service is free to us which means that we aren’t the consumer, we are the product. Cows live on ranches for free too. I left Facebook and was betrayed by more than 200 people who I never NEVER hear from anymore. Even best friends. They don’t call, they don’t visit. They are “over there’ having a party while I’m stuck at work. EFF EM. Facebook seems like it is adding something to your life, but it is doing the exact opposite. I joined other social networking sites and not a single person followed me. I just hang out and look at the artwork of Ello employees and their gay roommates. Yay.
Youtube: Youtube works because of something very, very unique. They have about 200 billion dollars worth of equipment. Yeah, no video site can compete because they can’t stream without breaks and they can’t come close to the feature set. So no, there is no hope of “building our own video site” because we simply don’t have access to the money it takes to stream a video of eating tide pods to some chode in France. Other video sites are unwatchable because the technology isn’t there to support even .001% of Youtube’s traffic. And I’m not exaggerating.
Instagram: It’s called sending a photo MMS text to a friend. It’s fine. No one needs it.
Freerepublic: A news aggregator that is brought to you (me .. well.. us) by .. um.. Us. Instead of going to Matt Drudge for his on again off again nevertrumperism, FreeRepublic allows news aggregation by the people. Unless that news or content comes from Infowars, apparently. So it’s no different than Apple/Facebook/etc in today’s actual event. It’s just as bad.
If you want to fight this system, you can’t play within it’s guidelines. It’s guidelines are designed to work against you. You must destroy it.
This means digital terrorism. And I don’t know who to thank for making hacking an act of terrorism. You know, where no one is harmed yet it’s still called terrorism. So while you may or may not be against DoS attacks on everyone of our political enemies or if you’re against EMPing data centers and servers or you’re against simply setting fire to private property then you’re not ready to deal with this.
You simply aren’t ready to deal with this. You won’t win . Once you’ve decided that these acts are perfectly ok (Which will happen.. It will. I promise.) only then will you have the power to change it. Until then do what we on the right do best: Prepare for a physical war.
These words may find my way to a zot. It may even find my way to a ban. But I can promise you that what I’ve said is as plain and real as it gets.
There are no alternatives to these services, nor should there be. The only way to win, is to not play.
Now, what if we ALL went out tonight to our local diner or whatever and put up a flier to assemble conservatives in the area for weekly or monthly meetings ? My area did it. It’s about 20 people. But those 20 people are more powerful than any talk or even attempt at some online bullsh!t. Freedom isn’t something you log into.
Let them do them and you do you. The Left is a giant echo chamber. Once someone wises up and leaves they never return. Our numbers build and we get out and vote. We quietly watch from across the street as ballots are counted and someday, soon, we will be waiting in the bushes once we understand that a .308 will do more for America’s survival than any stupid website.
I patiently await everyone’s response.
“.....these are UTILITIES that should be subjected to the same regulation.”
Correct my naivete, but the internet was a DARPA developed and for years controlled backbone. It was developed with tax dollars. Now layered on and around this backbone are routers and cables owned by
UUNET
Level 3
Verizon
AT&T
Qwest
Sprint
IBM
and some smaller fish...
All of whom can be made to sweat by the FTC.
The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) is an independent government agency responsible for regulating the radio, television and phone industries. The FCC regulates all interstate communications, such as wire, satellite and cable, and international communications originating or terminating in the United States.
Why can the Feds not say....hey, censorship affects interstate commerce? All news sites to some extent or another generate advertising revenues to sustain themselves.....therefore....don’t screw with anybody.
What seems lacking is the will by Congress or the Exec branch to squeeze some furry nuts until they howl.
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