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The disks of gas and dust that supposedly form planets donít seem to have the goods
ScienceMag.org ^ | Sept 28, 2018 | Adam Mann

Posted on 09/30/2018 12:34:32 PM PDT by ETL

Astronomers have a problem on their hands: How can you make planets if you don’t have enough of the building blocks?

Stars are born from colossal clouds of gas and dust and, in their earliest stages, are surrounded by a thin disk of material. Dust grains within this halo collide, sometimes sticking together. The clumps build up into planetary cores, which are big enough to gravitationally attract additional dust and gas, eventually forming planets.

But many details about this process remain unknown, such as just how quickly planets arise from the disk, and how efficient they are in capturing material. The disks, surrounded by an obscuring haze of gas and dust, are difficult to observe. But radio telescopes can penetrate the haze and investigate young stars. The brightness of radio waves emitted by dust in the disk can be used to give a reasonable estimate of its overall mass.

The Atacama Large Millimeter Array (ALMA), a radio observatory in the Atacama Desert in Chile, has made it far easier to study protoplanetary disks. In the new study, astronomers led by Carlo Manara of the European Southern Observatory in Munich, Germany, used ALMA to compare the masses of protoplanetary disks around young stars between 1 million and 3 million years old to the masses of confirmed exoplanets and exoplanetary systems around older stars of equivalent size. The disk masses were often much less than the total exoplanet mass—sometimes 10 or 100 times lower, the team will report in an upcoming paper in Astronomy & Astrophysics.

Although such findings have been reported before for a few star systems, the study is the first to point out the mismatch over several hundred different systems. “I think what this work does is really set this as a fact”

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KEYWORDS: alma; astronomy; carlomanara; catastrophism; fauxiantrolls; science; xplanets
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1 posted on 09/30/2018 12:34:32 PM PDT by ETL
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To: ETL

Funny,
Would “Attraction” to form a star
be contrary to centrifugal force?


2 posted on 09/30/2018 12:40:22 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: Big Red Badger

Science seems Unscientific sometimes.


3 posted on 09/30/2018 12:41:25 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: ETL

There seems to be a concerted effort to portray scientists as a bunch of bumbling fools who just can’t seem to get their theories straight.


4 posted on 09/30/2018 12:46:43 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: SpaceBar
There seems to be a concerted effort to portray scientists as a bunch of bumbling fools who just can’t seem to get their theories straight.

That's been the history of science from day 1. It's only with "GoreBull Warming" where's there no doubt about it, case closed.

5 posted on 09/30/2018 12:51:37 PM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: ETL

Another big theory bites the dust.


6 posted on 09/30/2018 12:54:08 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Cynicism is the only refuge in a world that is determined to eliminate itself.)
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To: ETL

Hey wait a second... this is another sneak attack on Settled Science and I’m not having any of it...


7 posted on 09/30/2018 12:59:24 PM PDT by Pelham (Non-Hispanic whites decreased from about 78% of California’s population in 1970 to 38.0% in 2015)
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To: ETL
I'm smart enough to realize that ‘science’ in its various incarnations gave me the electronic device I'm typing this on, and the miraculous infrastructure that connects it to the outside world. I'm also smart enough not to let a pop-sci story on slight discrepancies in planetary accretion calculations make me throw the baby out with the bathwater. Politics corrupted science, always has, not the other way around.
8 posted on 09/30/2018 1:01:48 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: ETL

When you deny God, and then try and figure out how the universe and life created itself, you come across as looking foolish. Professing themselves to be wise, they became wise. Romans 1:22. worshipped and served the creature morethan the Creator. Romans 1:25


9 posted on 09/30/2018 1:06:14 PM PDT by robel
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To: ETL

https://www.terrypratchettbooks.com/discworld-reading-order/


10 posted on 09/30/2018 1:13:00 PM PDT by chief lee runamok (mongrel at large)
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To: Big Red Badger

Do the Heathen Liberal thing Lie about it.


11 posted on 09/30/2018 1:14:17 PM PDT by carmen2017
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Scripture states God Holds All things
Together.
Scientists ain’t quite done
Building that “Tower of Babal.”


12 posted on 09/30/2018 1:34:48 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: robel

bingo! Just give them a few billion more years and they will figure it out!


13 posted on 09/30/2018 2:33:54 PM PDT by 2nd Amendment
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To: ETL

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDS_70

It’s actually been imaged in action.


14 posted on 09/30/2018 2:38:48 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: ETL

mostly drivel

The rings of saturn are the visible answer.

The earth’s moon is all that remains of the earth’s rings

The obsession with time is ignorance in print

All you have to know is that gravity did it in it’s own sweet time

Gravitational attraction rules


15 posted on 09/30/2018 2:44:52 PM PDT by bert ((KE. N.P. N.C. +12) Muller..... conspiracy to over throw the government)
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To: ETL

Where did the dust come from?

Reminds me of an old joke about God and the devil and growing a tree. When the devil asked for some dirt, God said, make your own. /Game over.


16 posted on 09/30/2018 3:41:43 PM PDT by vpintheak (Freedom is not equality; and equality is not freedom!)
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To: SunkenCiv

*ping*


17 posted on 09/30/2018 5:44:44 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: fieldmarshaldj; 75thOVI; Abathar; agrace; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AnalogReigns; AndrewC; ...
Thanks fieldmarshaldj.



18 posted on 09/30/2018 6:03:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Big Red Badger
WTF 'Babal' is, eh?

19 posted on 09/30/2018 6:05:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: KevinDavis; annie laurie; Knitting A Conundrum; Viking2002; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Mmogamer; ...
Thanks ETL for the topic, fmdj for the ping. Science is a method, not a body of knowledge, and as Thomas Aquinas pointed out, it is the method for studying the physical world. This is additional information which concurs with previous studies, and the information wasn't available more than a century ago, much less thousands of years ago.
 
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20 posted on 09/30/2018 6:09:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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