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Your IQ Matters Less Than You Think
Nautilus ^ | 4 Oct, 2018 | Dean Keith Simonton

Posted on 10/05/2018 9:48:18 PM PDT by MtnClimber

People too often forget that IQ tests haven’t been around that long. Indeed, such psychological measures are only about a century old. Early versions appeared in France with the work of Alfred Binet and Theodore Simon in 1905. However, these tests didn’t become associated with genius until the measure moved from the Sorbonne in Paris to Stanford University in Northern California. There Professor Lewis M. Terman had it translated from French into English, and then standardized on sufficient numbers of children, to create what became known as the Stanford-Binet Intelligence Scale....

The result was a group of 1,528 extremely bright boys and girls who averaged around 11 years old. And to say they were “bright” is a very big understatement. Their average IQ was 151, with 77 claiming IQs between 177 and 200....…

The story goes from bad to worse. Of the many rejects—the children with tested IQs not high enough to make it into the Terman sample—at least two attained higher levels of acclaim than those who had the “test smarts” to become Termites. Here are their stories: Luis Walter (Luie) Alvarez was born in San Francisco, just up the peninsula from Stanford. He was around 10 years old when he took Terman’s test but scored too low to enter the sample. The story goes from bad to worse. Of the many rejects—the children with tested IQs not high enough to make it into the Terman sample—at least two attained higher levels of acclaim than those who had the “test smarts” to become Termites. Here are their stories: Luis Walter (Luie) Alvarez was born in San Francisco, just up the peninsula from Stanford. He was around 10 years old when he took Terman’s test but scored too low to enter the sample.

(Excerpt) Read more at nautil.us ...


TOPICS: Education; Science
KEYWORDS: bellcurve; intelligence; success
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To: CodeToad

And in order to prove you’re full of crap you run straight to the insults for no reason. If you had facts you wouldn’t need insults, you go to insults so now we know you are useless and pathetic. Good bye.


121 posted on 10/06/2018 6:54:56 AM PDT by discostu (Every gun makes its own tune.)
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To: discostu

“Sorry but you are simply full of crap”

Well, I guess to your 1st grader mind, that settles that.


122 posted on 10/06/2018 6:57:47 AM PDT by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and America!)
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To: discostu

“And in order to prove you’re full of crap you run straight to the insults for no reason.”

Which is why you did it?

Seriously, your celebrity star-struck childishly feeble mind is why this nation is in such bad shape. Zero use of intelligence and nothing but emotional responses. You’re easily led around by your nose ring. Someone else tells you what to worship and you do.


123 posted on 10/06/2018 6:59:47 AM PDT by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and America!)
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To: CodeToad

you threw the first insult. Seriously you know nothing about me, and you need to insult simply for pointing out that the Nobel science prize has meaning. How bad is your ego that you need to tear others down that badly? You are wrong. Across he board. And you are sad in your need to insults. Every one you throw proves how utterly pathetic and worthless you are. Keep going, announce to the world how much you hate yourself. But I’m not reading anymore of you useless spew.


124 posted on 10/06/2018 7:02:35 AM PDT by discostu (Every gun makes its own tune.)
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To: null and void

Does she like saxaphones? Bugles? Hard-note pianos? Egotistical solo singers? Screeching violins?

Those are deal-breakers.


125 posted on 10/06/2018 7:07:28 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (News and poltiicians who ignore James O'Keefe are fake and evil.)
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To: null and void

Seriously, sorry you lost your house.

FRegards ....


126 posted on 10/06/2018 7:18:00 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (News and poltiicians who ignore James O'Keefe are fake and evil.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

It was worth it...


127 posted on 10/06/2018 7:19:46 AM PDT by null and void (The big problem is that the republicans don't keep their campaign promises and the democrats do!)
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To: jcon40

That’s the same list I go by. It seems to hold true.

Dumb or smart mixed with lazy is toxic in the workplace. Sometimes entitlement is just about as bad as lazy.


128 posted on 10/06/2018 7:20:09 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: wastedyears

Indeed.


129 posted on 10/06/2018 7:27:41 AM PDT by 762X51
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To: MtnClimber

Let the humble bragging begin.

“I’m a member of mensa, but I’m just a regular guy who drives a truck etc...”


130 posted on 10/06/2018 7:30:07 AM PDT by Drawsing (Fools show their annoyance at once, the prudent man overlooks an insult. Proverbs 12:16)
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To: MtnClimber
We aren't allowed to talk about IQ because it doesn't give us the desired result.


131 posted on 10/06/2018 8:11:53 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Science is a method, not a belief system.)
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To: grania

“A study I read decades ago put work and social success with the 120-130 range.”

Exactly right. While some geniuses are successful in their field, the correlation with success lies in the median range. An IQ more than one standard deviation lower puts success out of reach—at least from a normal perspective—though many such people are successful to a degree and happy with their lives.

A deviation higher may grant some level of success, but often comes at the cost of alienation and isolation. To quote a wise man:

For in much wisdom is much grief, And he who increases knowledge increases sorrow.


132 posted on 10/06/2018 8:12:08 AM PDT by antidisestablishment ( Xenophobia is the only sane response to multiculturalismÂ’s irrational cultural exuberance)
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To: MtnClimber

What matters is indefatigable determination. Illustrious people are tireless.


133 posted on 10/06/2018 8:13:57 AM PDT by aspasia
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To: Maudeen

I’ll put my money on common sense any day.


Plus willingness to apply oneself and intellectual curiosity. About all I offered and I was fortunate to have some patented ideas.


134 posted on 10/06/2018 8:15:45 AM PDT by bytesmith
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To: MtnClimber

You need a basic level of intelligence to get by in life. But there is also another factor I will describe as drive but is more complex. Some people are satisfied with things as they are, some are constantly driven to find a better, faster, more efficient way. You can see this in every walk of life. Combine that drive with intelligence and performance explodes.

I know many people that are much more intelligent than me but they are satisfied with things how they are.


135 posted on 10/06/2018 8:15:51 AM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: StolarStorm

It could have been worse. Like weaving Code for Apollo ?

Thank You for doing Your part in Our Space Program.

I used to install car alarms years ago. One customer brought me a ‘67 or so Mustang and wanted every add on We had available put on the bottom line Alarm CPU that was on Sale. He wasn’t happy with the way it all worked and after several weeks I finally got Him on the phone with the Manufacturer Tech guy. I’m standing there listening to one side of the conversation and suddenly the Customer says “Well I would have done it this way” and then continues on with “I was a Design Engineer for the Redundancy Systems on the Saturn V Rocket and you should redesign this Alarm CPU”.

I just went back to the shop and removed all of the Alarm System and refunded His money. He said he would make it at home. I said OK.

If I’d known in the beginning I would have never even started the installation. Was a very clean and proper Mustang though.


136 posted on 10/06/2018 8:25:46 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!)
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To: wardaddy
Yeah they are.

Wiped out all the local tribes.

137 posted on 10/06/2018 9:01:40 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, and somewhere else the tea is getting cold.)
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To: Czech_Occidentalist
I know the history.

But you would think such a smart group could have picked it's self up. They never did. Never even tried. Even with the major influx of all those so superior Germany genes.

Chile has almost advanced to first world status and probably will be there in a decade. They want it real bad.

138 posted on 10/06/2018 9:08:08 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, and somewhere else the tea is getting cold.)
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To: MtnClimber
Yes, I think people can be intelligent, but have completely flawed belief systems.

No kidding.

ACD and the fairies comes to mind.

Which is why when I see people buying into ideas just as ludicrous I try to give them a push in the right direction. Usually does not work. Probably won't here either. Or someone might take a look beyond the charts and tables and wonder just how this data came to be and dig. You never know. People can surprise you.

139 posted on 10/06/2018 9:17:19 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, and somewhere else the tea is getting cold.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

You’re wrong Teddy, I’m not trying to be confrontation

I’ve been there many times

I lived in Brasil next door and my ex wife is from Brasil and my two daughters are dual passport....not dual citizen

Argentina DNA mapping is approximately one third Amerindian markers

Mestizo

And there are still Indians in Argentina

About 3 percent of the population is actual tribe self identifying Indians mostly in the northwest and Patagonia

The USA is around one percent First Nations folk


140 posted on 10/06/2018 9:26:12 AM PDT by wardaddy (I donÂ’t care that youÂ’re not a racist......when the shooting starts it wonÂ’t matter)
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