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PLEASE HELP--CBD gummies for fibromyalgia?

Posted on 02/18/2019 9:24:54 PM PST by terart

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To: terart

Consumers Lab is an independent test lab that studies herbal supplements. They look for content as advertised or per standard. They also look for contaminants. The latest study on CBD oil shows the Bluebird brand as having the highest concentration of CBD and the lowest cost per unit. I have a friend that gets relief from RA by taking that brand of CBD at least two times a day.

The difficulty with selecting CBD is there is no standard. Reading the labels does not provide enough information to make a comparison.


21 posted on 02/18/2019 10:07:12 PM PST by meatloaf
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To: terart

This may sound kid of wacky, but my
mother suffered terribly from
fibromyalgia, and found some relief
from using satin sheets. It took a lot
less physical effort to turn over or
shift her weight while sleeping. For
her symptoms she used a prescription
med called Lyrica.


22 posted on 02/18/2019 10:07:19 PM PST by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: Do_Tar

hemp oil does NOT kill pain- I bought the straight hemp oil hoping it would- it does nothing and tastes nasty- it has nowhere near enough of the pain killing stuff that CBD is supposed to have


23 posted on 02/18/2019 10:07:45 PM PST by Bob434
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To: terart
From another site I frequent: Strength and source is key. 10 drops of 500mg and 10 drops of 1500mg will be different. Pressed CBD oil from seed and stalks is pure bullshit. It has to be whole plant extract. Some people will say if it's not from high grade cannabis, it will not work. Not true. Most CBD is derived from "hemp" but hemp is cannabis just the same. The bottom line is CBD plants are breed for higher CBD concentration. Nobody's taking high THC cannabis and extracting CBD from it. If the oil does not have testing attached to it, pass on it. Any reputable CBD oil with have lab paperwork with it. 90% of the crap on Amazon is just that, crap. The problem is, a good theraputic dose for pain is too expensive. To get the maximum benefit, it's 1-5mg per 2lbs bodyweight. Less is fine but it's one of the reason people say it doesn't work. Everyone has their own theraputic level though. Go to medmen in Kearny Mesa and get the trident concentrate or the 1000mg oil and give it a shot. Just like smoking weed, it's works differently for everyone. You may want to try the 1:10 or 1:5 CBD/THC if you can tolerate it. It works much better the more equal the two are and you use less. I used it for my neck and shoulder injury because I refused to take pain meds. It didn't make the pain go away but it makes it manageable. The .03% CBD should not cause a positive test, but I would not bet money on it. Absolutely no "weed feeling" or effects at all though. I like the topical lotions the best. Always helpels my arthritic hands. Would take the swelling and joint pain away. 
24 posted on 02/18/2019 10:08:23 PM PST by Romans Nine
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To: TChad

I only bring up Fentanyl, because during my experience as Caregiver, some of my clients have had cancer. Fentanyl was the only thing that made their day a smidgen more bearable.

The drug was administered by me and my assistants on a scheduled basis. We used patches, and only after we had ‘double-gloved up’ for our own protection.
Everyone signed the med book each time a patch was put in place. All disposed of properly. You don’t just throw a used Fentanyl patch in the trash.


25 posted on 02/18/2019 10:09:25 PM PST by lee martell
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To: weston

[[Continued inflammation will destroy his joints and eventually his kidneys and heart.]]

Possibly but it wouild usually take a very long time to get to that poiunt- the body is very resilient, and will go a long time with severe pain before deadly consequences take hold- usually


26 posted on 02/18/2019 10:09:30 PM PST by Bob434
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To: lee martell

Prednisone can easily make a person whacko... but it is good for anemia. If I could find an alternative for my Dad I’d do it because it really messes him up mentally.


27 posted on 02/18/2019 10:10:25 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: lee martell

yeah it’s nasty stuff- i think there was an incident where police removed a sticker or envelope or something from a vehicle as evidence, and it was laced with fentanyl if i remember right- they got mighty sick from it-


28 posted on 02/18/2019 10:12:03 PM PST by Bob434
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To: piasa

there are weaker forms of pred that don’t have quite the bad results- but not sure how effective they are- docs always gave me straight prednisone, but i was always interested in the alternatives, just never got aroudn to really researchign them


29 posted on 02/18/2019 10:13:50 PM PST by Bob434
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To: terart

I have a close friend with fibromyalgia. She also gets intense, blinding migraines. She had tried various prescriptions over a ten year time frame. Everything seemed to cause more problems than it helped. She then tried CBD oil a couple of years ago and was able to function normally again. She said she could still feel the fibro and migraines a bit, but the difference was night and day. No guarantees than results will be the same for everyone. I do believe it’s worth trying. It’s incredibly low risk and might do wonders.


30 posted on 02/18/2019 10:16:49 PM PST by patriotred
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To: terart

I believe it can be reversed, that it is a symptom of a diseased state. A person simply has to have the will to do so and an open mind.

I also believe that CBD is snake oil, nothing more than a mask for other factors which need to be addressed before healing can begin. No different than a multitude of compounds people now take to relieve symptoms without addressing the cause(s).

Best of luck. I mean that. I have yet to meet a person willing to undertake a different approach to their fibromyalgia, an irrational approach to a a condition which should prompt a willingness to try anything. The psychology of illness is a conundrum I analyze at-length.

Footnote to those thinking about attacking me for my CBD opinion: Don’t do it. Fair warning. Share your experience if you feel the need, but don’t attack me. Been there; I will return fire if fired upon. I am not kind to emotional, sickly lefty vegetarians and will not tolerate it here.


31 posted on 02/18/2019 10:18:05 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: terart

Personally I have never heard of an 80 yr old man suffering from fibromyalgia, much less intense enough to make him this miserable.
I hope he is seeing a good rheumatologist then, if the diagnosis is not clear? Does he need a bone scan? Is he on a statin drug that could be causing muscle damage?


32 posted on 02/18/2019 10:22:26 PM PST by GnuThere
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To: terart

http://www.doctoryourself.com
http://www.doctoryourself.com/pain.html

https://www.peakenergy.com/ Dr. Thomas Levy

You might want to check out Dr. Levy’s book, Primal Panacea for high dosage vitamin C using oral Liposomal vitamin C. I wouldn’t expect instant relief for pain, but possibly help for the underlying disease(s). Good luck.


33 posted on 02/18/2019 10:28:06 PM PST by matthew fuller (Some people are deserving of the death penalty.)
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To: terart

Strip all sugar and yeast from his diet. Get a $16 bottle of aqua flora inc high potency 9 for all 9 strands of candida. Try the candida diet. I was diagnosed with fibro and none of the meds helped me. Out of sheer desperation I went to a chiropractor who offered some holistic remedies for fibro. He did a full evaluation and advised it was systemic candida. Nine years of suffering disappeared in just 3 days using the diet and system cleanse. Totally changed my diet, my health, my energy level. You might want to explore it as an option.

Praying for healing for your father.

Whatever you do, don’t let him mix alcohol and pain meds. Too dangerous.


35 posted on 02/18/2019 10:36:24 PM PST by TheWriterTX (Trust not in earthly princes....)
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To: terart; Fledermaus; Pelham

Can’t hurt

I know folks who swear by it

They smoke it or drink it or gummies or vape CBD OIL

Near my house near franklin TN there are two expensively laid out one acre to two acre glass greenhouse built tall to accommodate sativa strains CBD marihuana

I’m guessing 200,000 plus acre

The Frist family is in it in a big way too locally here

They tell me you should gross 60,000 per acre every pull

Beats cotton or beans

If by chance you’re on pain meds regimen or probation or parole they will dirty a urine sample

Just advice


36 posted on 02/18/2019 10:40:26 PM PST by wardaddy (Progressive winter is coming.)
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To: socalgop; lee martell

Yes but for some things prednisone is only choice...some cocortisteroid

As for opioids

Better choices than fentanyl

It’s just cheap and such tiny doses it’s easy on the liver

I prefer morphine for robust pain..
Or dilaudid


37 posted on 02/18/2019 10:42:50 PM PST by wardaddy (Progressive winter is coming.)
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To: cornfedcowboy

CBD OIL RISKIER THAN OPIATES.....

yes like the lime in a Cuba libré is more dangerous than the rhum


38 posted on 02/18/2019 10:44:10 PM PST by wardaddy (Progressive winter is coming.)
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To: matthew fuller

Also, I have a friend who uses Kratom for pain relief related to cancer. Kratom is not related to CBD, and is legal as well.


39 posted on 02/18/2019 10:48:32 PM PST by matthew fuller (Some people are deserving of the death penalty.)
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IMPORTANT- UPDATE INFO— I am in Virginia. He is in PA...I see him fairly often. He was on predisone for years (doctors never took him off)...yes it helped with the pain but he seemed to go downhill fast and he decided maybe 2 or 3 months ago it was killing him (he read something about rat poison) and so he was weaned off.


40 posted on 02/18/2019 10:50:17 PM PST by terart
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