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Ancient Tablets May Reveal What Destroyed Minoan Civilization
Haaretz ^ | Sep 10, 2019 | Philippe Bohstrom

Posted on 09/16/2019 4:21:23 PM PDT by Openurmind

The Minoans and their capital Knossos weren’t incinerated by volcanic blast from Thera or flattened by quake as thought, but tellingly: their writing system changed.

The mystery of what happened to the Minoan civilization has tormented archaeologists for over a century, and the tale has now taken a new twist. Nothing happened to them, say archaeologists who have been excavating the island of Crete for over thirty years. This extraordinary people, who produced palatial architecture unparalleled in the Aegean region at the time, were not immolated by the volcanic eruption of Thera as once thought, crushed by earthquake, or squashed by Mycenaean Greece as more recently supposed. Rather, the Minoans, who had for centuries wielded influence throughout the Aegean, did experience earthquakes that rattled them, were indeed badly weakened by the volcanic blast from Thera on the nearby island of Santorini, and did experience the unamiable attentions of the mainland Greeks.

But although the two cultures appear to have struggled, over time the elite elements of both became virtually indistinguishable, after 1450 B.C.E., if not earlier. Minoan influence as such would recede and the by-then-Mycenaeanised islanders would soldier on until the great collapse of civilization around the Mediterranean Basin, around 1,200 B.C.E.

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TOPICS: Education; History
KEYWORDS: aegean; catastrophism; crete; epigraphyandlanguage; fauxiantroll; fauxiantrolls; godsgravesglyphs; haaretz; knossos; minoans; mycenaeans; philippebohstrom; tarshish
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To: yarddog
as soon as I see BCE, I quit reading.

Why?

21 posted on 09/16/2019 5:15:02 PM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: Openurmind
My pleasure.

22 posted on 09/16/2019 5:15:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Openurmind

Bump


23 posted on 09/16/2019 5:17:19 PM PDT by stockpirate (Anyone who believes Epstein killed himself is a fool)
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To: goldbux

Any civilization that doesn’t change its default type font from Times New Roman to a more readable sans-serif font is doomed.


24 posted on 09/16/2019 5:22:37 PM PDT by goldbux (No sufficiently rich interpreted language can represent its own semantics. — Alfred Tarski, 1936)
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To: Openurmind

Liberalism?


25 posted on 09/16/2019 5:24:14 PM PDT by salmon76 (Socialism has a perfect track record. It wrecks nations' economies 100% of the time.)
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To: Poison Pill

It is an obvious slap at Christians.


26 posted on 09/16/2019 5:26:59 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Larry Lucido

One possibility. It could be that Minoan civilization’s upper classes taxed their productive people so much, that when Greek cities arose, the skilled Minoan craftsmen left for other places with less of a tax burden


27 posted on 09/16/2019 5:30:25 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: yarddog
No, it's not, it's an obvious use of a dating system common to non-Christians, such as the Israeli source of the story. So knock it off.

28 posted on 09/16/2019 5:41:24 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: yarddog
It is an obvious slap at Christians.

It's an Israeli publication. The writers and primary readership are Jewish. Why would you expect them to use Christian nomenclature?

29 posted on 09/16/2019 5:44:00 PM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: yarddog

It’s a Jewish website. That is how BC is always expressed


30 posted on 09/16/2019 5:44:43 PM PDT by BigEdLB (BigEdLB, Russian BOT, At your service)
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To: SunkenCiv

Yes it is and you are right. It is used by people who are not Christians but don’t want to create their own system. They use the Christian system but want to dis them at the same time.

And yes it is intended to be.

Sort of like a person who doesn’t like Greeks but uses their alphabet and refers to it as the common letters.


31 posted on 09/16/2019 5:47:17 PM PDT by yarddog ( For I am persuaded.)
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To: Poison Pill

Because they use a Christian system. If they don’t want to use a system created by Christians then create their own system.

Don’t use it then make a point of dissing them by calling it something else.


32 posted on 09/16/2019 5:50:15 PM PDT by yarddog ( For I am persuaded.)
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To: BigEdLB

Jews say before Christ by changing it to a meaningless phrase?


33 posted on 09/16/2019 5:52:13 PM PDT by yarddog ( For I am persuaded.)
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To: yarddog

I would bet money that Disraeli never said BCE.


34 posted on 09/16/2019 5:53:44 PM PDT by yarddog ( For I am persuaded.)
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To: yarddog
You should have mentioned what an ignorant bigot you are, I wouldn't have bothered with a reply. I'd be surprised if you don't put the very same wheel to work in the very same rut in many a science and history topic here on FR, because that's what trolls do.

35 posted on 09/16/2019 5:58:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: yarddog
If they don’t want to use a system created by Christians then create their own system.

Every culture has a dating system. Most of them are older than the Gregorian system which only goes back to the 16th Century. The world standardized on the Gregorian system for ease of communication. That's a compliment to us, not a slap in the face.

36 posted on 09/16/2019 5:59:32 PM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: yarddog

That’s a safe bet considering Disraeli was an Anglcan, although CE was in scholarly use by then, first as ‘Common Era of Christ’.


37 posted on 09/16/2019 6:00:07 PM PDT by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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To: SunkenCiv
Common era was used by 16th-18th Christian scholars as well. The Vulgaris Aerae means common era/vulgar era (different meaning used today) or “our Christian Era”. The fact that they are using the Gregorian calendar and thinking they side-step the Christian aspects of notation is hilarious in my opinion.

On topic, Mycenaeans, how, gradual and maybe instances of opportunities to exploit.

38 posted on 09/16/2019 6:01:32 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: Openurmind

They should do a movie called National Lampoon’s Vacation Time where the Griswolds time-travel and accidentally wreak havoc everwhen they go.


39 posted on 09/16/2019 6:04:25 PM PDT by Rastus
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To: yarddog

A Jewish person using AD may believe they are breaking the First Commandment


40 posted on 09/16/2019 6:05:55 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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