Posted on 01/05/2020 8:33:01 PM PST by Mariner
When are we ever going to get away from these guys from the comic books, capes, acrobatic stunts, etc. So boring and so ridiculous.
This is why I like Woody Allen’s movies. They are about people and real life problems.
“When are we ever going to get away from these guys from the comic books, capes, acrobatic stunts, etc. So boring and so ridiculous.”
You have not seen the movie.
It’s got nothing to do with comic books, stunts, special effects or capes.
Phoenix put the entire auditorium on blast when he said (paraphrasing) “social activism, words words words, but we can all do better. Do we all need to fly private jets here and back for this award ceremony tonight?” Mic drop, walks off stage.
F***ing awesome.
The murder scene in his apartment is the most intense thing I’ve ever seen on film.
“””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””
I honestly barely remember it. I do remeber constantly thinking that the movie was a cheap hybrid of two excellent movies, ‘Taxi Driver’ and ‘King of Comedy’. Both made when DeNiro was not a caricature of himself.
He grew up in a sex cult as a kid (Children of God). He’s a wreck as was his brother and Rose McGowen.
It was bad enough Flash Gordon defeated Ming the Merciless. Does he have to humiliate him, too?
and won’t bother.
I’m told by some that Joker is about an anti-hero.
Nope. It’s about a psycho, from what I’ve heard.
Batman and Dirty Harry are anti-heroes.
Joker is a psychopathic murderer who commits crimes.
It’s a ripoff of Taxi Driver from what I hear. So what’s to love?
“The man’s a genius actor. And his performance in Joker is his best ever.”
Agreed, his performance was disturbing and amazing. Haunting.
And to clarify, i mean this towards the actors, not the OP.
I did not.
He always comes across incredibly awkward in public, he does this on purpose.
Insert “anime is better” right here.
What really struck me was how his unusual laughter choked him.
He really did become someone else.
Gervais hosting is always a treat. He just says stuff that in 2020 I cannot believe he gets away with. Said something about Judy Dench that may be the crudest thing I’ve ever heard on tv. Not for the faint of heart, or religious, or anyone with a modicum of decency. Could not believe he said it. Vile... in a word.
But really tuned in just to see if Phoenix would win. His psychosis crawls off the screen. Cannot disagree with the comparisons to taxi driver. But it’s different, in that I see Deniro when I see taxi driver. When I see Joker, I see a legit sociopath.
Because the point wasn’t any individual scene or dialogue.
The point of this movie was the arc of a character, and how Joe Below Average became one of the most terrifying arch villains of all time.
Where does the character begin, and where does the character end? That’s what’s memorable about this movie structurally. Artistically, Phoenix’s performance is his masterpiece.
Good question. Phoenix was really remarkable, but it’s a movie I’d never want to watch twice because it was disturbing. Closest thing I can compare it to is reading something like Crime and Punishment.
“He really did become someone else.”
He’ll likely be Joker until he starts training for his next role. Then he will be that.
He is likely nobody himself. An empty vessel.
He’s not.
He’s a recovering alcoholic.
He’s a liberal now, but he gets a pass from me, because he’s a master.
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