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CERN Makes Bold Push to Build $23-Billion Super Collider
Scientific American ^ | June 19, 2020 | By Davide Castelvecchi, Elizabeth Gibney, Nature magazine

Posted on 06/21/2020 7:59:28 PM PDT by BenLurkin

Europe’s preeminent particle-physics organization will need global help to fund the project, which is expected to cost at least €21 billion and would be a follow-up to the lab’s famed Large Hadron Collider. The new machine would collide electrons with their antimatter partners, positrons, by the middle of the century. The design—to be built in an underground tunnel near CERN’s location in Geneva, Switzerland—will enable physicists to study the properties of the Higgs boson and, later, to host an even more powerful machine that will collide protons well into the second half of the century.

The approval is not yet a final go-ahead. But it means CERN can now put substantial effort into designing a collider and researching its feasibility, while pushing to the backburner research and development efforts for alternative designs for LHC follow-ups, such as a linear eletron-positron collider or one that would accelerate muons.

The decision comes in a document approved today, called European Strategy for Particle Physics Update. It outlines on two stages of development. First, CERN would build an electron-positron collider with collision energies tuned to maximize the production of Higgs bosons and understand their properties in detail.

Later in the century, the first machine would be dismantled and replaced by a proton-proton smasher. That would reach collision energies of 100 teraelectronvolts (TeV), compared with the 16 TeV of the LHC, which also collides protons and is currently the most powerful accelerator in the world. Its goal would be to search for new particles or forces of nature and to extend or replace the current standard model of particle physics. Much of the technology that the final machine will require has yet to be developed, and will be the subject of intensive study in coming decades.

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KEYWORDS: cern; europeanunion; geneva; higgsboson; physics; science; stringtheory; supercollider; switzerland; thehiggsfake
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To: reasonisfaith

Because all the ‘old guys’ have told me so.

Do you doubt the Oneness and Unity of everything, within God?

(If you actually believe in ‘Satan’, then we have nothing more to discuss. That is antithetical to the idea that there is only ONE God.)


81 posted on 06/23/2020 8:45:34 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Jamestown1630

You mean satan the created being?


82 posted on 06/23/2020 9:24:17 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: reasonisfaith

Maybe ‘Satan’ was just a symbol of something - an idea -that unsophisticated people could grasp; and not anything real in itself.

We need to be afraid of what is inside of us and of our own making; not what we imagine is Outside and out to ‘get us’.


83 posted on 06/23/2020 10:05:06 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: reasonisfaith; Jamestown1630
"By the way, how could either of you have jumped ahead of the rest of those “trying to understand the material universe” and reached the “one irreducible conclusion” before its time?"

Nobody jumped to anything. Jamestown's original post, to which I replied was purely speculative opinion and clearly stated as such: "I personally think it’s going to eventually lead us to one irreducible conclusion."

My reply to his clearly stated opinion was likewise based on the speculative nature of his opinion. I believe (and concur with) Jamestown' opinion that as more and more becomes known about the workings of our universe, the more evident it will point to the inescapable conclusion that there is but one Creator and one Truth. That the father of lies and deceit would want to control, obscure and distort that knowledge is in my mind, a leap of faith, but a very easy leap to make.

"When you grasp the thing still in its pre-nascent state in order to forego proper development, what does that say about your viewpoint?"

It says that our viewpoint is about larger things than the mere construction of a super collider, a project and undertaking that has the potential to unveil more and more of the inner and outer workings of reality, where that information may lead and what may be done with that information.

84 posted on 06/24/2020 4:05:11 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Jamestown1630

No, I don’t think you have it right.

What we need to do is worship God who created everything and gave us life, and who sent his only begotten son Jesus Christ to die on the cross for our sins and then rise again in the flesh.


85 posted on 06/24/2020 7:25:02 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: Joe 6-pack

If I misunderstood you I apologize.


86 posted on 06/24/2020 7:25:11 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: reasonisfaith
No apology necessary - your screen name speaks to the very core of this thread and this discussion, and echoes the sentiment of a quote so profound, I choose to keep it on my FR homepage:

"I do not seek to understand that I may believe, but I believe in order to understand. For this I believe: that unless I believe, I should not understand."

~ St. Anselm of Canterbury

87 posted on 06/24/2020 7:30:15 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Thank you. I really like Anselm’s Ontological proof, and now you’ve given me something else of his to enjoy.


88 posted on 06/24/2020 10:36:43 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: reasonisfaith

I don’t like to interfere aggressively with anyone’s individual religious/spiritual beliefs and convictions. I think those represent an intensely personal, individual orientation, and nobody can decide for anyone else what is ‘right’ or ‘correct’ for the other to believe.

But I DO believe that there are different ways to interpret the meanings of the life and messages of Jesus, as those have come down to us; and I suspect that there are hundreds - if not thousands - who read this forum, who revere Jesus and believe in His teachings, but don’t exactly interpret all of them in the same way - nor in your particular way.

I understand that people who believe profoundly in a certain interpretation of Christianity are convinced that theirs is The Only Way. But there exist more than one rigid way to take useful value and meaning from Jesus and His teachings.

I’m interested in just convincing people to LOOK at it, and consider it; I don’t want to demand that anyone see it in exactly the way that I do.


89 posted on 06/24/2020 9:49:11 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Jamestown1630

Jesus doesn’t force belief on others because belief can’t be forced.


90 posted on 06/24/2020 10:08:33 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: Jamestown1630

Jesus doesn’t force belief on others because belief can’t be forced.


91 posted on 06/24/2020 10:08:33 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: reasonisfaith

Oh.

I guess that’s whom I learned it from.


92 posted on 06/24/2020 10:10:28 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Jamestown1630

Gnostic teachings are the lowest of low IQ.


93 posted on 06/27/2020 9:46:12 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: Jamestown1630

Otherwise known as postmodernism. It’s mentally retarded.


94 posted on 06/27/2020 9:51:57 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: reasonisfaith

I’m not sure how you conflate the people we call ‘Gnostics’ - about whose beliefs we really understand so little - with ‘postmodernism’.

Postmodernists don’t seem to have faith in much at all, but mere human intellect; descendants of the earliest Gnostics died for their Faith.

But, carry on.


95 posted on 06/27/2020 6:05:08 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Jamestown1630

The belief of the Gnostics is no mystery.

They believe in denying Christ. Nothing more to it.

Postmodernists are the same. It might seem to come from a different angle, but they seek the same end and like the Gnostics, with their methods they succeed only in shooting themselves in the foot. They don’t know it but they’re bleeding to death.


96 posted on 06/28/2020 6:39:03 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: reasonisfaith

Well, you keep believing what you do; and I’ll keep trying to understand the Gnostics. I think they had something valuable going on...


97 posted on 06/28/2020 6:45:21 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: BenLurkin

Look, if YOU were involved in super colliders YOU would want a bigger one! Come one, you know it. The first bang of atoms would be fun but you just know you’d look at your buddies and say, “Doods! Let’s make a bigger one!”


98 posted on 06/28/2020 7:01:12 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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