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In an America full of craven Parises, be an Agamemnon
American Thinker ^ | 3 Feb, 2022 | Adam Vicari

Posted on 02/03/2022 5:40:27 AM PST by MtnClimber

It’s time for normal Americans to fight the Left’s tyranny.

Anyone who is even passingly familiar with Homer’s epic poem The Iliad knows that it is an epic tale of betrayal, war, and retribution.

The story describes a 10 year-long siege by a newly United Greece against the city of Troy, whose walls were thought to be impenetrable by any army. Behind these walls hid the cowardly Paris, prince of Troy and son of Trojan king Priam, who snuck off in the dead of night with Helen, the wife of Menelaus, the king of Sparta and the brother of Agamemnon, king of Mycenae and commander of the Aechaen Greek army that would lay siege to Troy.

As a response to Prince Paris’s abduction of his wife, King Menelaus and King Agamemnon began an assault on the city of Troy, with Agamemnon leading a fleet of 1,000 ships to their shores and waging war that lasted a decade with legendary warriors like Achilles and Odysseus, the mastermind behind the Trojan horse and the eventual fall of Troy.

If this sounds familiar today, that might be because we are facing our own Trojan War in this country today. The far left “progressive” wing of the Democrat party, the cowards who brazenly steal and abscond with our liberties and constitutional rights in the dead of night and then hide behind their own Trojan walls of “safe spaces” and ivory tower faculty offices, the Oval Office, the Capitol building, behind the titles of CEO of entities such as Facebook and YouTube, or even behind the walls of “-isms” and “-phobes” they like to label anyone who disagrees with their politically correct agenda.

Their war on the rights and liberties of the American people, and their war on sanity, much like the Trojan War,

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TOPICS: History; Society
KEYWORDS: communism; godsgravesglyphs; trojanwar; troy

1 posted on 02/03/2022 5:40:27 AM PST by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber

The fact that only a teenage boy had the backbone to stand up to the leftist mobs does not bode well for the future of the USA.


2 posted on 02/03/2022 5:40:36 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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Not to be picky, but the Iliad starts very close to the end of the Trojan War. It does not describe the abduction of Helen. It does not describe a 10-year siege. The Iliad ends before the fall of Troy.

The Iliad is about the anger of Achilles.


3 posted on 02/03/2022 5:47:08 AM PST by ClearCase_guy ("If you see something, say something"? I see people dying from vaccines.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Not to be picky, but the Iliad starts very close to the end of the Trojan War. It does not describe the abduction of Helen. It does not describe a 10-year siege. The Iliad ends before the fall of Troy.

Yes, but while not actually depicted, all of that is mentioned in the story. I think it is in the scene where Menelaus and Paris fight in single combat and Aphrodite rescues the weenie Paris before he can be killed.

Also, Agamemnon was an ass for dissing Achilles the way he did.

4 posted on 02/03/2022 6:21:18 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (11/3-11/4/2020 - The USA became a banana republic.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

And the writer neatly avoids mentioning who shot the arrow that found his heel.

I always identified with the Trojans, in spite of Paris.


5 posted on 02/03/2022 6:23:02 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Sans-Culotte

Well, that was a further point that I decided not to make. The article encourages people to be Agamemnon. I don’t consider him an admirable person. I don’t want to be Agamemnon.


6 posted on 02/03/2022 6:34:27 AM PST by ClearCase_guy ("If you see something, say something"? I see people dying from vaccines.)
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To: Sans-Culotte

And Helen....

Hubba hubba....


7 posted on 02/03/2022 6:36:07 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: ClearCase_guy

True. But THE AENEID by Virgil fills in many blanks from the Trojan side. Aren’t we glad Augustus did not fulfill the last wish of Virgil!

There are other Greek Poets who have also filled in the Iliad version of the Trojan War.


8 posted on 02/03/2022 7:18:28 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (BACK IN FACEBOOK JAIL, Another 30 days. On GAB now. Some real cranks there!)
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To: one guy in new jersey

And Helen....

After that war, in the Odyssey, Helen and her husband had lots of adventures getting back home, including having to go to Libya to capture the Old Man of the Sea. It would be an epic poem itself.
The rest of the Odyssey is of Odysseus’ adventures.


9 posted on 02/03/2022 7:22:10 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (BACK IN FACEBOOK JAIL, Another 30 days. On GAB now. Some real cranks there!)
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To: MtnClimber

My favorite movie of this time is still HELEN OF TROY(1956)


10 posted on 02/03/2022 7:23:25 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (BACK IN FACEBOOK JAIL, Another 30 days. On GAB now. Some real cranks there!)
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To: skeeter
I always identified with the Trojans, in spite of Paris.

I always favored the Achaeans. Everything about the Trojan cause was ignoble because they defended a wife stealer and fought a war that resulted in lots of deaths and the fall of their city. The only reason the Trojans are successful in The Iliad is because Zeus lets them win as a favor to Thetis, mother of Achilles. In film versions of the story they tend to favor the Trojans as well and make the Greeks look menacing and predatory.

I think my favorite character is Athena, who constantly interferes in the battles (with Hera's help) in spite of Zeus's orders not to. All the Gods interfere, but she seems the most headstrong and stubborn.

11 posted on 02/03/2022 8:07:05 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (11/3-11/4/2020 - The USA became a banana republic.)
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To: Sans-Culotte

The manner in which the Greek behaved at the fall of Troy kind of validates the ‘predatory’ charge.

The Trojans get the last laugh, though, when Aeneas escapes and founds Rome.


12 posted on 02/03/2022 8:16:38 AM PST by skeeter
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To: skeeter
The manner in which the Greek behaved at the fall of Troy kind of validates the ‘predatory’ charge.

I think it also shows how savage those times were (not that the Trojan War necessarily happened at all). The poem celebrates death on an epic scale. I assume that the Trojans would have be just as destructive had they won. It was what they did back then (or at least the did in the mythic world of Homer). The argument between Agamemnon and Achilles at the beginning is over the possession of a woman who was Achilles' prize of battle. That in itself seems very ignoble, but it was the way back then. The story has a very casual attitude about killing, raping and pillaging.

13 posted on 02/03/2022 8:29:35 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (11/3-11/4/2020 - The USA became a banana republic.)
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To: Sans-Culotte

Probably so, although according to Homer Poseidon & Athena, at least, were offended enough by the sacking to see to it the Greeks had one helluva time returning home.


14 posted on 02/03/2022 8:41:46 AM PST by skeeter
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Thanks MtnClimber.

15 posted on 02/04/2022 10:10:31 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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