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Rome fell due to rise of homosexuality: Expert
The Indian Express ^ | 04/09/2011 | Staff

Posted on 07/23/2022 10:23:07 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski

A top Italian history professor has caused outrage after he claimed that the Roman Empire fell due to the rise of homosexuality.

Roberto De Mattei, 63, a devout Roman Catholic, had already raised eyebrows by saying the Japan tsunami was "divine punishment", and now with his latest claim he faces calls to resign.

"The collapse of the Roman Empire and the arrival of the Barbarians was due to the spread of homosexuality," the Daily Mail quoted the vice-president of Italy's prestigious Centre for National Research as saying in a radio interview.

"The Roman colony of Carthage was a paradise for homosexuals and they infected many others. The invasion of the Barbarians was seen as punishment for this moral transgression.

"It is well known effeminate men and homosexuals have no place in the kingdom of God.

"Homosexuality was not rife among the Barbarians and this shows God's justice comes throughout history," he stated.

Fellow historians, gay rights groups and politicians expressed their outrage over his claims.

"I have tabled an urgent call for the education minister to intervene," Paola Concia, an MP with the Democratic Left, said.

Italian homosexual groups said the professor's comments were "based on superstition, ridiculous and outrageous" and called on him to resign from his Rome-based post…

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Roberto De Mattei Is a prominent Italian historian who was canceled for speaking the truth. Homosexuality also destroyed the Greek empires…
1 posted on 07/23/2022 10:23:07 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Now the homosexual red neck has arisen, because he’s saying, “That’s nothin’. Watch this”


2 posted on 07/23/2022 10:25:07 AM PDT by Jonty30 (Are vegetarian real vegetarian burgers or just fake meat?)
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The collapse of the Roman Empire and the arrival of the Barbarians was due to the spread of homosexuality,


A few thoughts:

1) it was not the only thing. There are usually several things that bring down a civilization

2) Homersexuality is a behavior and it has a lot of related destructive behaviors.


3 posted on 07/23/2022 10:26:59 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Corruption and decadence, same as it ever was.


4 posted on 07/23/2022 10:29:52 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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"gay rights groups and politicians expressed their outrage over his claims."

I've discovered that it's better to be hated by this world than loved by it. To be loved by it means the devil has a temporary use for you. And then he destroys you.
5 posted on 07/23/2022 10:30:52 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Yeah it’s total bs.


6 posted on 07/23/2022 10:31:49 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

The Southern Agrarians warned of the dangers of city life and the decadence that can come from it. We see in the state of Illinois a greater percentage of red counties than Alabama has yet the decadent big city areas rule the state’s electoral votes.

Solzhenitsyn said that Americans suffer from the spiritual impotence that comes from a life of ease”. The decadent city people that overeat food have more political influence than the farmers who grow the food and work 14-hour days from planting to harvest.

The decay of American cities includes homosexual decadence which weakens all aspects of society, family stability, and all branches of the military.


7 posted on 07/23/2022 10:34:15 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (To the barricades !!!)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

We wrestle Not against
Flesh and Blood,,,


8 posted on 07/23/2022 10:34:18 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (We Are JONAH)
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To: PeterPrinciple
One of the reasons given for the rise in Christianity is that Christians (and Jews) valued children. They did not practice abortion or infanticide.

Because of this and widespread homosexuality in Pagan Rome, Roman cities were unable to reproduce themselves. They relied on constant immigration to maintain their populations.

So, Christians were better at reproducing. Rodney Stark gives several other reasons and advantages Christians had in Roman society.

9 posted on 07/23/2022 10:35:15 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: PeterPrinciple
2) Homersexuality is a behavior and it has a lot of related destructive behaviors.

Edward Gibbon in his work, “The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire”, postulated that Christianity was a major cause of the fall of Rome. He is mostly wrong, and only correct to the extent that Christians would not send their sons to fight for Sodomite legions. Homosexuality is the root cause.
10 posted on 07/23/2022 10:35:33 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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It’s easy to see how it works.

California fell the same way.


11 posted on 07/23/2022 10:35:39 AM PDT by EasySt (Say not this is the truth, but so it seems to me to be, as I see this thing I think I see. #MAGAA)
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Loose immigration laws also. They were particular about who became a full privileged citizen but cheap labor was enticing along with human trafficking.


12 posted on 07/23/2022 10:35:49 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Joe Biden has issued a national emergency over the shortage of cue cards.)
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Americans suffer from the spiritual impotence that comes from a life of ease”


We are about to experience the cure. Anyone excited about it?


13 posted on 07/23/2022 10:36:01 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Academic freedom for me but not for thee.


14 posted on 07/23/2022 10:36:16 AM PDT by Ge0ffrey
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To: PeterPrinciple

This.🤔


15 posted on 07/23/2022 10:36:44 AM PDT by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Read Mattai’s book on the history of Vatican II. This is an orchestrated witchhunt.


16 posted on 07/23/2022 10:37:47 AM PDT by Ge0ffrey
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To: Jan_Sobieski
Rome fell because of...

1. Christianity
2. Homosexuality and Sexual Perversion in general
3. Lead in the pipes
4. Immigration of non-Romans diluting the Roman culture and ethos
5. Depletion of gold reserves used to bribe Mongols
6. Low birth rate among Roman elites
7. Over-expansion of empire
8. Military increasingly relying on non-Roman mercenaries
9. Advancing technologies and military tactics of opposing civilizations

Place your money, take your bets.

17 posted on 07/23/2022 10:38:24 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not a tagline.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Ironically, many famous Europeans (esp. Frenchmen) of the 19th century and early 20th century would return to modern Carthage in North Africa to indulge in their homosexual appetites with young Muslim boys whom they repeatedly sodomized.


18 posted on 07/23/2022 10:39:21 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: Williams

You think loose morals are bs? Homosexuality is just one of the markers in a corrupt and decaying society. It may not be the root cause but is a characteristic of decline in the glue that holds an empire together.


19 posted on 07/23/2022 10:40:31 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Joe Biden has issued a national emergency over the shortage of cue cards.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

If he’s going to make an argument that widespread hosexuality led to a decline in birth rates, I’d listen. But “God punished them because they were homosexuals” is not a legitimate argument from a historian.


20 posted on 07/23/2022 10:40:48 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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