Posted on 12/27/2022 6:41:40 AM PST by MtnClimber
Well, here's the medical facts that entirely explain why people with more shots get more covid.
I've been paying attention to this possibility for a while but until the study work came out that proved it all there was is speculation. ADE ("Antibody dependent enhancement") is a fairly poorly-understood thing; most people believe it is confined to making a particular infection more serious than it would otherwise be. Of course having it occur when it otherwise would not fits that quite-nicely, but isn't what people tend to think about.
Now, unfortunately, we have the evidence. Here's the salient graph and lots of discussion which I'll try to recap for you here:
Let me explain this one for you because it makes very clear what's going on. There are multiple sub-types of IgG antibodies. IgG are the last ones that show up; IgA typically is in the mucosa of the nose, and is a "front line" of defense if you will. IgM shows up second; it generally is gone about two weeks or so after you recover. IgG is the "long term" antibody recognition but it has multiple subtypes.
This is very important for human and animal life, because not all things that can elicit a serious immune response should get one. For example: A bee sting. A serious immune response to that could kill you and in people seriously-allergic that's a real risk. So why don't most people get a serious immune response?
As it turns out they sort of do, but its focuses in one sort of IgG build, IgG4, which suppresses the cascade of events that cause the body to go after the thing in question and destroy it, along with all the side effects that produces (fever, serious inflammation, etc.)
Well, when you get Covid typically IgG3 is the one that neutralizes most of the virus. IgG1 and 2 do some of the work, but most of it is done by IgG3. You're not supposed to build an IgG4 response, and with natural infection without vaccination you don't, thus there's no inhibition and your response is and remains effective at neutralizing whatever it is. Typical vaccines (e.g. measles) elicit a response that looks exactly like an actual infection because that's how they're designed and intended; they use the whole virus and their intent is to make your body think it is being invaded by the real deal and respond as it would to the real deal.
SNIP
Remember, IgG4 causes the body to tolerate the infection rather than attack and clear it.
This turns you into a walking virus mutation and production factory, a source of infection to everyone around you and, to the extent that the virus does direct damage to your body systems, and we know the spike does, it also is likely to lead to very severe long-term problems that look like other conditions. Nobody is looking for spike damage specifically in, for example, heart attacks, strokes and pulmonary embolisms, never mind the possibility of potentiating cancer by suppressing immune response if that suppression and tolerance goes beyond Covid, and it very well might. If that's not bad enough everyone that got jabbed has the same profile of response where the normal situation is that responses differ in different people because our body systems operate slightly differently (we're all genetically unique.)
Now who's most-likely to have had the most number of jabs and thus are walking around tolerating infections and giving them others? Health care workers! And who goes to the hospital or doctor? Compromised individuals who can least-withstand infections. Gee, that was smart, right?
What's worse is that we do not know if this is local to Covid or even just coronaviruses. It might not be. We may now have created a couple hundred million people in the US alone who have coded their immune systems to tolerate certain proteins that are common across all manner of respiratory viruses and worse, if its not local to viruses to be more-susceptible to cancer and other immune-sensitive problems with no way to reverse the effects!
I would be interested in critiques from anyone with an Immunology background.
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An interesting article on a theory about why the most Vaxxed and Boosted have increased rates of COVID infection.
And older article with some info that may be of interest.
https://healthcare.utah.edu/healthfeed/postings/2021/07/blood-clotting-covid19.php
Same topic ... I don’t like the title ... article is chock full of good info, references.
Philadelphia 2023
Your immune system on the edge.
https://arkmedic.substack.com/p/philadelphia-2023
One brief excerpt:
So, now we have a problem on multiple pathways leading to the same scenario.
1. Suppression of the body’s defence against cancer
2. Suppression of the body’s defence against viruses
3. Exhaustion of the very components of the immune system that protect against those two things.
Thanks, MtnClimber.
*PING* to everyone else, for the full article I linked to on the regular thread.
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Pinging our resident health-care reporter.
Yep....exactly what we were told would be happening....by REAL docs/scientists (not the FRoctors or $$hills)....is now happening.
Heaven help us/them!
Just skimmed the article.
Jiminy Barking Cricket.
This makes the Nazis and Pol Pot and Stalin combined look like pikers.
nope... sorry. it is artificial sweeteners that are killing the vaxxed. nothing else.
nothing to see here, move along.
Coronavirus PING!
Since there are more vaxxed people than unvaxxed people in the age sectors where Covid can be a problem, it is statistically more likely that more vaxxed people will get Covid than unvaxxed people. That’s not to mention the fact that it is possible to get Covid and not know it. I had a cold this week but I didn’t test because I had Covid in September which was basically a Cold with some heart issues that went away. So the statistics are hard to lock down.
In reality, almost everyone has Covid antibodies by now. Covid is a bioweapon that came from China. Ironically, it mostly affects people in China due to their air pollution and smoking.
I hate everyone and everything.
My multi-vaxxed and boosted sister and husband have Covid—again—she just told me it would be a lot worse if they hadn’t gotten their shots.
The husband has been out of action for three weeks....
I just listen and say nothing—the only way to win that game is not to play—never argue with a fool—guaranteed drama and no possible good outcome.
Add fiber to your diet and quit using vim
I hate fiber and I hate vim.
Oh poo the truth comes out ....
Based on what was just described about IgG4, she is partially correct. The IgG4 is suppressing the perceptible, unpleasant symptoms while allowing the virus to do real damage. It is a false comfort like getting drunk to ignore the debt collectors.
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