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Scientists Discover Secret 'Symmetries' That Protect Earth From the Chaos of Space
LiveScience ^ | 5/9 | Anna Demming

Posted on 05/12/2023 5:10:55 PM PDT by nickcarraway

A new analysis of chaos in the solar system reveals how planetary collisions are avoided over billions of years.

Earth probably shouldn't exist.

That's because the orbits of the inner solar system planets — Mercury, Venus, Earth and Mars — are chaotic, and models have suggested that these inner planets should have crashed into each other by now. And yet, that hasn't happened.

New research published May 3 in the journal Physical Review X(opens in new tab) may finally explain why.

Through a deep plunge into the models for planetary motion, the researchers discovered that the motions of the inner planets are constrained by certain parameters that act as a tether that inhibits the system's chaos. Besides providing a mathematical explanation for the apparent harmony in our solar system, the new study's insights may help scientists understand the trajectories of exoplanets surrounding other stars.

Unpredictable planets

Planets constantly exert a mutual gravitational pull on each other – and these little tugs constantly make minor adjustments to the planets' orbits. The outer planets, which are much larger, are more resistant to little tugs and so maintain comparatively stable orbits.

The problem of inner planet trajectories, however, is still too complicated to solve exactly. In the late 19th century, mathematician Henri Poincaré proved that it is mathematically impossible to solve the equations governing the motion for three or more interacting objects, often known as the "three body problem." As a result, uncertainties in the details of the planets' starting positions and velocities balloon over time. In other words: It is possible to take two scenarios in which the distances between Mercury, Venus, Mars and Earth differ by the slightest amount, and in one the planets smash into each other and in another they veer apart.

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TOPICS: Astronomy; Religion; Science
KEYWORDS: astronomy; catastrophism; earth; mars; mercury; science; venus
Tyger Tyger, burning bright, In the forests of the night; What immortal hand or eye, Could frame thy fearful symmetry?
1 posted on 05/12/2023 5:10:55 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
Sorry, formatting:
Tyger Tyger, burning bright,
In the forests of the night;
What immortal hand or eye,
Could frame thy fearful symmetry?
2 posted on 05/12/2023 5:11:30 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Not a secret anymore.


3 posted on 05/12/2023 5:22:04 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA ("How did you go bankrupt?" Bill asked. "Two ways," Mike said. "Gradually and then suddenly." )
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To: All
It's Chaos Theory in action, folks.

4 posted on 05/12/2023 5:40:13 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I was going to start procrastinating this year, I just haven't got around to it.)
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To: nickcarraway

For the moon is hollow, but I have seen the sky.

interesting questions, but a very bad hypothesis


5 posted on 05/12/2023 5:41:16 PM PDT by algore
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To: nickcarraway
Interesting article. I guess a step in the right direction to understanding orbital mechanics is realizing just how much we don’t understand about orbital mechanics. I thought the math pretty much took the guesswork out of it.
6 posted on 05/12/2023 5:42:12 PM PDT by telescope115 (My feet are on the ground, and my head is in the stars. A Man, and proud of it!)
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To: nickcarraway

All I can say is that it was/is no accident.

Life - living things - needed a home in the universe.

I have read many times how if any number of variables about the earth never happened, life on earth would not exist.

It is no accident.

The solar system was “designed” with earth “in mind”.


7 posted on 05/12/2023 5:54:58 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: nickcarraway

More evidence that the Rare Earth Hypothesis might be right.

https://astronomy.com/news/2022/07/rare-earth-hypothesis-why-we-might-really-be-alone-in-the-universe


8 posted on 05/12/2023 6:09:57 PM PDT by threefinger
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To: nickcarraway

Judah Ben Hur: I don’t believe in miracles

Balthazar: Your whole life is a miracle...


9 posted on 05/12/2023 6:25:07 PM PDT by xp38
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To: nickcarraway

Calling Dr. Velikovsky to the white phone please....


10 posted on 05/12/2023 10:09:29 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite its unfashionability)
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To: telescope115
I thought the math pretty much took the guesswork out of it.

Far from nearby objects, even deep space probe location calculations are approximations. All models are wrong; a very small number are useful, sometimes.

Mathematics is eternal, without time, space, or energy, an inseparable branch of God. It's a perfect truth, while all our senses of the real world are approximations, technically lies. It's easy to ascribe God-tier perfection to mathematical models, but the perfection is only with the math itself, never its application to reality.

11 posted on 05/12/2023 11:23:11 PM PDT by Reeses
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To: nickcarraway
Planets constantly exert a mutual gravitational pull on each other – and these little tugs constantly make minor adjustments to the planets' orbits. The outer planets, which are much larger, are more resistant to little tugs and so maintain comparatively stable orbits.

To believe that an exceedingly vast, systematically ordered universe, exquisitely finely tuned for life with intricate astounding complexity, can be all a result of purely natural processes requires much faith, more so than that the universe logically testifies to design, requiring a First Cause (at the least), that of a powerful being of supreme intelligence being behind the existence of energy and organization of matter.

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Yet,

Dawkins [essentially] Admits Nothing Can Persuade Him God Exists

12 posted on 05/13/2023 5:19:33 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him who saves, be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: Reeses

Variables.
From time to time I like playing this game

https://www.stefanom.org/spc/index.html

to amuse myself, plus it does help me to visualize what can happen when different planetary bodies interact with each other.


13 posted on 05/13/2023 6:52:46 AM PDT by telescope115 (My feet are on the ground, and my head is in the stars. A Man, and proud of it!)
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To: Reeses

Agree!


14 posted on 05/13/2023 6:59:35 AM PDT by Reily (!!)
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To: 75thOVI; Abathar; agrace; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AnalogReigns; AndrewC; aragorn; ...
Thanks nickcarraway.


...the orbits of the inner solar system planets — Mercury, Venus, Earth and Mars — are chaotic, and models have suggested that these inner planets should have crashed into each other by now. And yet, that hasn't happened.
Yeah, good one.

15 posted on 05/13/2023 7:31:57 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (NeverTrumpers are Republicans the same way Liz Cheney is a Republican.)
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