South Africa's Slow, Inevitable March Towards Collapse

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[Eleutheria5]

I have known quite a few South Africans. I have studied South African history as a matter of personal interest (Great Trek by Walker, Lord Packingham’s Boer War, Steve Biko’s Frank Talk essays, White Tribe of Africa by I-forget-who, among others). But no, I’ve not been to South Africa. No plans to.

“You’re viewing this from the outside. Did YOU or anyone you know ever had a long personal relationship with Mandela?”

I’m assuming that you did, then? I do remember his visit to NYC, and totally despised it. Sycophant media, traffic along Broadway disrupted. The usual.

[magooey]

the Zulus were getting Islamized.

Do you have a reference for that? I am residing in the general neighborhood so am interested.

[Eleutheria5]

Just the say-so of my South African expat friend back in 2013 in Atlanta. Wouldn’t surprise me though. They have a militaristic culture and history.

[magooey]

To his credit, he didn’t commit any massacres of whites or dissident blacks.

I understand that in the first four years after liberation there were 125,000 murders in South Africa.

[magooey]

Maybe I shouldn't be surprised. There was a push of sorts by Muslims in my part to convince locals to come to their "church" after the October 7 Massacre. At that time were telling anyone that they themselves were Muslim, as if trying to start up a conversation of sorts.

While the male population was clean shaven in earlier years, lots of locals are wearing beards now. It is all somewhat concerning.

[Eleutheria5]

OK. OK. You and No Pardons win. Mandela was not “relatively reasonable” except relative to his present heirs, who are outright bastards.

[magooey]

Recalling something a few years earlier, I had chatted with a local soldier who informed me that Muslims don't have divorce. He could not be convinced of their actual law of triple talaq, so they must have been working on the native military in previous years.

[Eleutheria5]

I’d say that the talaq is not the same as western divorce. Husband just says the magic words three times and kicks his ex out of the house. No lawyers. No support or custody or property issues. Just ‘bye beotch.

[magooey]

You are better read on the South African background that I am, so I appreciate your perspective. My advantage is that I have been resident on and off in southern Africa for a goodly part of the last quarter century. At various times I have listened to advice to NOT visit South Africa due to the color problem.

[magooey]

No lawyers. No support or custody or property issues. Just ‘bye beotch.

WOW! Temptation is evil./sarc

[chopperk]

They will run out of food soon since the gov’t killed all the white farmers in SA and Zim. All the irrigated circle fields are now growing up with trees.

[zeugma]

End the racism

In my experience, black folk are some of the most racist folks on the planet. Good luck with that. There is a reason sub-saharan africa doesn't have a single prosperous country in it.

[1Old Pro]

There is a reason sub-saharan africa doesn't have a single prosperous country in it.

Yes there is.

[Rockingham]

The Boers denuclearized before yielding power to the ANC..

[DiogenesLamp]

They will run out of food soon since the gov’t killed all the white farmers in SA and Zim. All the irrigated circle fields are now growing up with trees.

The collapse of South Africa was quite predictable.

[PTBAA]

Thank you, and thank God!

[nopardons]

OH GOODY GOODY...I love book list time! Perhaps you will find a book that might interest you, however most of these books are from South Africa and I don't know how available they are in other nations.

David Harrison wrote THE WHITE TRIBE OF AFRICA, it's okay. I've also read Parkingham's, who does NOT use his title, BTW,on my book.

Since you obviously like books about the Boer War, the following are ones to read IF you can find them: 1) THE ANGLO-BOER WAR 1899-1902, by E. Pretorious 2)London To Ladysmith vi Pretoria, by Winston Churchill 3)Ian Hamilton's March, by Winston Churchill, 4)Churchill in Africa, by Brian Roberts 5)Churchill Wanted dead or Alive, by Celia Sandys 6)The Anglo-Boer war 1899-1902, by Charl Vorster PHD 7)Commando:A Journal of The Boer War, by Denys Reliz

The following are a mix... 1)Shaka's Children : A History of The Zulu People, by Stphon Talor 2)The Bushmen, by Alf Wonneburgh 3)South Africa: A Narrative History. by Frank Welsh 4)All 8 books by Herman Charles Bosman

I'll give you all of Bosman's book titles via FRmail, if you are interested; however, I don't think that these are available outside of RSA; sadly. And thus ends the list; though NOT complete, re the the books in my library.

Please don't assume anything,as you are probably wrong.

Some of my extended family lives in RSA and are descended from the original settlers.

No, thankfully I never met Mandela; however, yes, some there knew him quite well, in a business/personal, NOT GOVERNMENTAL capacity. So yes, besides having read about him, I have been told about him, by family.

ME? I NEVER liked him one bit ( even before the family told me what they knew ) and I never, for one second, thought that his becoming president would work.

[nopardons]

I can ask about this, if you guys want to know. Personally, I don’t know anything at all about it.

[nopardons]

The "magic words" are I DIVORCE YOU( THEE ), I DIVORCE YOU, I DIVORCE YOU.

Muslims also have "a bride for a night" thing, which means that they may have sexual congress with someone NOT their wife/wives for one night and it isn't considered to be adultery.

[magooey]

Please enquire. The issue is relevant.