Glock Supports National Ballistic Fingerprinting (Gun Registration)!!!

60 Minutes ^ | February 9, 2003 | Mike Wallace

[Ronaldus Magnus]

Please pardon the vanity, but I just heard the V.P. of Glock in Georgia say that he thought it was time for a national gun registry of ballistic fingerprints to be "given a try". Did anyone else here this?

[Ronaldus Magnus]

If so, I've purchased my last Glock.

[FreedomCalls]

I want a national fingerprint system. Think of how many crimes it would solve. Everyone, not just criminals, and beginning with the employees of CBS, will report to their local police station to have their fingerprints taken. Now. Go. Why would you oppose it? Are you a criminal? It's for the children.

[Ronaldus Magnus]

Bang!

[WorkingClassFilth]

Why would an Austrian manufacturer care about American Constitutional issues? There are American manufacturers that have demonstrated the willingness to betray our civil rights, so this shouldn't be too great a suprise if true.

Still, it should serve as a stern reminder that we, the citizens, are alone...

[AlabamaRebel]

They're not talking about taking your finger prints.

Ballistic Fingerprinting s where they take a fired slug and a used casing from the weapon.

Which is stupid. First, try and get a criminal to bring in his weapon to do this. Second you can replace the fireing pin and barrel anytime, so much for ballistics.

[Ronaldus Magnus]

Still, it should serve as a stern reminder that we, the citizens, are alone...

You are completely correct, of course. Still, it ticks me off when I see gun manufacturers support the lefties. Are they really this STUPID???

[FreedomCalls]

They're not talking about taking your finger prints.

You're not acquainted with irony are you?

My proposal is to fingerprint, and I mean real fingerprints from your fingers, to fingerprint everyone. Think of all the crime it would solve. If it saves just one life. It's for the children.

All the arguments used for ballistic fingerprinting can be used to justify real fingerprinting everybody as well. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. If you are opposed to going down to the police station and voluntarily giving up your fingerprints, then maybe you can understand why the NRA is opposed to ballistic fingerprinting.

[AlabamaRebel]

Sorry, I mis-read your post. I agree with you though.

I don't need to go down to the local sheriff to give up my fingerprints. They already have mine, along with the State Police, FBI, ATF and probably the CIA for all I know.

Aside from my military service I was also a firearms dealer.

I personally don't believe Ballistic Fingerprinting will work though.

If you need to replace the frame for your firearm, you need to go through a back ground check because the frame has the serial number.

If you want to replace the fireing pin or the barrel, just lay your money down and walk away because there are no serial numbers.

Where do you get the Ballistic's from? Not the frame.

In my own opinion it is just another feel good law that will do nothing to stop or even solve crimes.

I have nothing against stopping crime, but people like Handgun Control have no clue what they are doing.

[WorkingClassFilth]

I don't think these companies are stupid at all because their government contracts make a lot more gravy for them than a few hundred thousand individuals. In the case at hand, Glock, these speculations would apply only if true. And if such allegations were true, would I say that they are unethical, untrustworthy and undeserving of American citizen's business? Yes - definitely.

And if not? I'd still keep a weather-eye cocked on them.

[Clinging Bitterly]

They showed part of a NRA video that shows how simple it is to alter those markings. Of course 60 Minutes said it was a "how to" video, and didn't show the whole thing. I wasn't watching all that close, but it looked like a Glock they were using in the video. I would like to think they won't put another Glock piece on film or in print. Anybody wanna bet the odds on that?

Dave in Eugene

[xm177e2]

Second you can replace the fireing pin and barrel anytime, so much for ballistics

Not when they come back for round 2 of the ballistic fingerprinting laws, to close that "loophole." (the public loves it when they close loopholes, especially loopholes with cutesy names like "the gun show loophole.")

[xm177e2]

I have nothing against stopping crime, but people like Handgun Control have no clue what they are doing.

They know they can't ever successfully control handguns; instead they want to control handgun owners.

[Fixit]

Was he speaking for the company, or just shooting his own mouth off?

Either he needs to be fired, or Glock needs to be fired as an acceptable gun supplier.

[TERMINATTOR]

You need to put a * in front of bang_list.

[TERMINATTOR]

Bang!

[dd5339]

We need to get a confirm on this. If this is the case we need to make copies of the information and distribute them at all the local dealers and gun shows.

How soon people forget what an irate gun owning population did to Smith & Wesson when they jumped in bed with the gun banners.

Smith & Wesson has moved back to sanity and they've somewhat regained their standing in the firearms community.

Semper Fi

[Ronaldus Magnus]

I don't think these companies are stupid at all because their government contracts make a lot more gravy for them than a few hundred thousand individuals.

The idea of firearm manufacturers selling out the only free, gun owning citizens on the planet is just too scary for me to think about.

[Ronaldus Magnus]

Thanks, we need to get the word out on this.

[Ronaldus Magnus]

The boycott of Smith and Wesson by private gun owners almost drove them out of business and eventually got them to rescind the H.U.D. agreement. My guess is that firearm manufacturers don't get much of a margin out of their military and police government contracts and that their retail sales are where they make their profits. If Glock stands by this statement, we may all need to vote with our gun buying dollars.

[WorkingClassFilth]

Well, here's the commie group, 'Americans for Gun Safety' touting the S&W/Glock exploration of fingerprinting technology:

http://w3.agsfoundation.com/s_finger1.html