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Sobran: My Obsession with Jews [for all who mistakenly think he is a valuable contributor]
Federal Observer ^ | maybe 10/30/03 | Joe Sobran

Posted on 10/30/2003 8:04:40 AM PST by Chancellor Palpatine

Edited on 10/30/2003 9:21:43 AM PST by Lead Moderator. [history]

[Moderator's note: We have received a few complaints on this posting, saying that this is a forgery, that it is not written by Joe Sobran. I was able to find this on his site.]

Sobran: My Obsession with Jews
By Joe Sobran

Now and then I get letters and e-mail messages asking why I am so "obsessed" with Jews and Israel. The question amuses me. It would be one thing if I often wrote about Mali, or Honduras, or Borneo, or any other nation or country most people remember only as a name from geography class.

I should think it's obvious that I'm “responding” to an obsession – an obsession of contemporary culture, politics, the media, the arts. We have been getting 24/7 coverage of Jews, the Holocaust, and Israel for years now. The front pages, the evening news, the magazine covers devote so much attention to Israel - a country the size of New Jersey on the other side of the world - that you could get the impression that it spans several time zones and includes much of the world's population (plus a few gentiles). Many columnists write about it more often than I do: Charles Krauthammer, William Safire, Cal Thomas, Paul Greenberg, Mona Charen, and George Will, to name a few. Of course they write uncritically about Israel, so they aren't considered obsessed; Eric Alterman of THE NATION has compiled a list of more than 60 well-known pundits who "reflexively" support Israel, while finding only 6 who are frequently critical.

Every American president has to spend a disproportionate amount of his time coddling Israel and denouncing or actively fighting Israel's enemies. It's become part of the job description, as much as if it were written into the Constitution - or more so, since constitutional obligations have become optional and *this* obligation is definitely not. At the same time, no president or any other politician may suggest that the American-Israeli alliance imposes undue risks, costs, or burdens on the United States.

Journalism still devotes so much attention to the Holocaust that, as I once quipped, "The NEW YORK TIMES should be renamed ”HOLOCAUST UPDATE." Books and movies about it continue to pour forth; bookstores have whole sections on the Holocaust, and universities consecrate entire departments to "Holocaust studies." Holocaust memorials spring up everywhere. Elie Wiesel preaches that we *should* be obsessed with the Holocaust, as he is. Churches, accused of silent complicity in, and even ultimate responsibility for, the Holocaust, do their best to repent and atone.

Current Jewish sufferings are treated as specially tragic facts, extensions of the Holocaust itself. When Arab terrorists seized an Italian ship, the Achille Lauro, and threw a Jewish passenger overboard, a leading American composer, John Adams, wrote an entire opera, THE DEATH OF KLINGHOFFER, about the incident.

"Anti-Semitism" has become the chief of sins. It's seldom helpfully defined, but it seems to take a thousand forms, from outright genocide to indiscreet bons mots about Israel. Many gentiles live in dread of being labeled anti-Semitic, a charge against which there is no real defense or appeal: to be accused is to be guilty. The burden of proof, as I've often pointed out, is on the defendant - and a difficult burden it is, since he hardly knows what he's being accused of. How can you prove your innocence of an undefined crime? By the same token, there is no penalty for false charges of anti-Semitism, since a meaningless charge can't be proved false anyway.

No gentile is quite safe from the charge. The Gospels, Catholicism, and the papacy have been indicted; so have Chaucer, Shakespeare, Voltaire, Edmund Burke, Dickens, Henry James, Henry Adams, Dostoyevsky, Mark Twain, Hilaire Belloc, G.K. Chesterton, T.S. Eliot, Ezra Pound, Hemingway. (So far Jane Austen and Emily Dickinson seem to have escaped the accusation.) Then there are whole anti-Semitic nations, among them Russia, Poland, Hungary, Romania, Germany, France, and Spain, lately joined by most of the Arab nations (thereby proving it is possible to be Semitic and anti-Semitic at the same time).

Billy Graham was recently roasted for anti-Semitism when it transpired that he'd made a few disparaging comments about Jews in the media during what he'd thought were private conversations with President Richard Nixon “30 years ago!” Perish the thought that there might have been a grain of truth in what he'd said; Graham dutifully groveled, then, when Jewish groups indignantly complained that this was not enough, he groveled again. A few years back, even that Hollywood icon Marlon Brando had to do a tearfully groveling retraction of some mildly critical comments about Jews in Hollywood.

And they wonder why I'm obsessed.

Of course I have my own special reasons. In 1986 I had my own run-in with fanatical Zionists, earned the dreaded label, and refused to perform the mandatory grovel. I won't retell the whole story here, except to say that my own ardent support for Israel had ended in 1982 when I realized what Israel's cruel invasion of Lebanon, led by Ariel Sharon, meant for America and for my family.

For America it meant that the Jewish lobby, including some of my neo-conservative friends (as I thought them), had gotten this country into a sticky situation: an alliance that was morally dubious and very dangerous. We were being steered into a needless war with the Arabs, hotly desired by Israel and its supporters but contrary to our own real interests.

As for the Sobrans, two of them - my sons Kent and Mike - were in their teens. If, as seemed likely, the military draft was restored, they might be sent to fight the war the Zionists were seeking. I began arguing in my syndicated column for American disengagement from Israel.

Shortly afterward I ran into Ben Wattenberg, one of my friends (I thought), who said he'd heard I'd "gone off the reservation on Israel." It was the first time I'd been informed that I was on a "reservation," but I soon learned what he meant.

Despite various warnings and pressures - veiled threats, really – I wasn't about to back down or retract anything. As far as I was concerned, I was fighting for my boys' lives. But if I wanted to thrive in journalism, I was expected to put Jewish interests ahead of everything, or at least keep quiet.

As I told Bill Buckley at the time, the Jewish- Zionist interest amounted to an unacknowledged third party in American politics. Though it had been traditionally liberal, it had sprouted a "neo-conservative" wing since 1967. In truth, the neo-conservatives were hardly conservative at all. For most of them, Israel was everything and overrode all other issues. You could agree with them on nine out of ten issues, but if the tenth was Israel the other nine didn't matter to them. You were the enemy.

You couldn't really feel the power of the Jewish Party until you ran up against it. With amazing speed it had thoroughly satellized the largely Christian conservative movement, thanks in large part to Buckley. He wasn't about to let me imperil his position. He tried to tell me so, in his indirect and avuncular way, but I couldn't take a hint.

Luckily, I was a fairly small fry in the movement, and the Jewish Party had far bigger antagonists to target for destruction. I didn't get the full treatment Buckley would have gotten if he'd said what I had said, or the treatment Pat Buchanan did get.

Still, when the blowup came I felt deserted -- and in some cases betrayed -- by my fellow conservatives. Much as I wished they would rush to my defense, I also wished that if this was too much to ask, they would at least see the “meaning” of what was being done to me.

Put simply, I was paying the price for “defending American interests” (and conservative principles). If, as the neocons insisted, American and Israeli interests were more or less identical, they should have called me anti-American, not (or not only) anti-Semitic. But of course they never did; they weren't that subtle, and in some ways they were deeply confused.

Without realizing it, they were tacitly admitting that I was right: that American and Israeli interests were very different - even conflicting - things. Why else would Israel need a lobby in America at all, except to promote its interests to the detriment of our own? This should be obvious, but most people don't get it.

Of course there is no American lobby in Israel to look out for our interests, regardless of the impact on Israeli interests. This is only one of the many unnoticed asymmetries of the situation. Double standards can succeed in their furtive purpose only when they pass unobserved. But to call attention to double standards favoring Jews is "anti-Semitism." According to Zionist rhetoric, of course, only anti-Semites apply double standards - though in fact Zionism's first principle is that ordinary standards of justice don't apply to Jews. As one Israeli rabbi has put it, "A million Arabs are not worth one Jewish fingernail."

That sounds like a defiantly brutal denial that "all men are created equal." The rabbi may have meant that it would be better to murder a million Arabs than to tolerate the slightest Jewish loss. But he might have meant something much less bellicose, something even pacific: that the current tradeoff of Jewish and Arab lives is a terrible thing for the Jews, even if far more Arabs than Jews die. Nobody really wins a war that diminishes both sides.

It may be said that all this amounts to a caricature of the Jews. In fact, I'll say it myself. It's really a self-caricature of the Jews, drawn by the prevalent part of the Jewish community. It reflects neither the older tradition of the Orthodox, which is rooted in the hard objectivity of Mosaic law rather than modern sentimental victimology; nor the immense variety of Jewish intellectuals, who are as the sands of the sea but who don't usually subscribe fully to the oversimplified myths of the Holocaust and Zionism.

The Orthodox Jew, faithful to an ancient and rigorous tradition, commands respect. So, in a different way, does the nonobservant intellectual Jew, who greatly enriches the life of the mind in the modern West; he remains unobsessed by the Holocaust and skeptical of, even embarrassed by, Zionism. In some cases, both the Orthodox Jew and the unaffiliated intellectual Jew may be downright anti-Zionist.

The plague-carriers, so to speak, are the secularized, liberal, middlebrow Jews whose vulgarity sets the tone for American politics, public discourse, and popular culture. Some of them, like Steven Spielberg and Barbra Streisand, have real talent, of sorts; most of them are good at making money and aggressive in using it for their pet causes. Above all, they have a low genius for propaganda - for shaping the popular mind and its characteristic platitudes.

This is the prevalent body of Jews, our unacknowledged third party – the party of Zionism, Holocaust promotion, secularism, sexual license (including "gay rights" and legal abortion), and an aggressive U.S. foreign policy (in the interests of Israel, not the United States itself). The Jewish Party, only a small fraction of the U.S. population, donates more than half the money received by the presidential candidates of the two major parties. It also dominates the major news and entertainment media.

The Jewish Party's inordinate power, though unmentionable in the major media, explains why gentiles, especially the ambitious, dread the label of "anti-Semitism." Some of the most perceptive, sensitive, and effective critiques of Jewish power - that is, of the Jewish Party -- have been made by Orthodox and intellectual Jews. One danger of the present situation is that the Jewish Party will become synonymous with "the Jews."

And this is exactly what the Party wants: to be recognized as the only authoritative Jewish voice, with all dissenting Jews marginalized. Under the brutal rule of Ariel Sharon, Israel's image in the West is worse than ever before. Today it's startling to remember the radiant aura it enjoyed in the days when its chief international spokesman was the urbane and eloquent Abba Eban. Those days are gone forever. The old image of a humane, democratic Israel was largely myth - a myth Sharon himself still exploits - but at least the Israelis made some effort to maintain its plausibility. Now, as Israeli soldiers shoot Arab women in labor without official rebuke or regret, the ugliness of Zionism has become visible to anyone with eyes to see.

Shouting "Holocaust" and "anti-Semitism" can no longer disguise the facts. Despite all the rhetoric, Israel is a "democracy" only in a Pickwickian sense. It began by expelling most of its Arab majority, seizing its homes, and refusing it reentry. That created a Jewish majority, which has been maintained and increased by extending to every Jew on earth the "right of return" to a land where few of those Jews (or for that matter, of their ancestors) had ever lived in the first place. Yet the fiction of Israeli democracy is still honored by the United States.

The Great Obsession has become a huge embarrassment for the Bush administration. It can't repudiate the U.S. alliance with Israel, even as it needs international - especially Arab - support for the "war on terrorism." Of course that war itself is a result of the Obsession, which has shaped American foreign policy for decades.

The embarrassment is also a Laocoon-like entanglement. Polite diplomacy flounders in the vain quest for a peaceful settlement; Rome and Carthage are trying to destroy each other, and both sides are invited to a tea party.

As suicide bombings alternate with disproportionate yet unavailing retaliations, the daily news from Israel is so painful that we all yearn for a solution. But it's probably too late. It has been wisely said that even the greatest chess player can't take over a misplayed game after 40 moves. This game is clearly destined to end - or to continue indefinitely - in tragedy. The only question is how many millions of people will be engulfed in its flames.


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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Typical Traditional Catholic Anti-Semitism; is pre-Vatican II synonomous with Anti-Semitism?
221 posted on 10/30/2003 4:55:09 PM PST by streetpreacher
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Why would you worry about that?

For the same reason I would worry if I learned that Ivy League and Seven Sister alums donated half the money received by the presidential candidates from each major party. Wouldn't that concern you?

222 posted on 10/30/2003 5:11:47 PM PST by saradippity
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To: Lazamataz
"They had, like, three G-dlets (Father, Son and Holy Ghost -- I kept thinking the Holy Ghost was Caspar). They worshiped a bunch of saints. Something was really amiss here."

Yeah, something was amiss. You. Catholics worship the one true God. I won't bother to explain the Trinity to one who dwells in the realm of Casper.
223 posted on 10/30/2003 5:12:56 PM PST by Honey West
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To: Lazamataz
How convenient... your "conversion" sounds about as nonchalant as deciding to have ice cream for supper instead of that "nasty broccoli". Man of real convictions, I see.
224 posted on 10/30/2003 5:33:20 PM PST by streetpreacher
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To: streetpreacher
How convenient... your "conversion" sounds about as nonchalant as deciding to have ice cream for supper instead of that "nasty broccoli". Man of real convictions, I see.

How dare you attempt to judge the dedication I have for my faith. If anything, it has grown greatly, especially lately.

You, on the other hand, are a weenie.

225 posted on 10/30/2003 5:38:16 PM PST by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999 !!!!)
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To: Honey West
Yeah, something was amiss. You. Catholics worship the one true God. I won't bother to explain the Trinity to one who dwells in the realm of Casper.

No prob. I had it all explained to me a million times. Never did make any sense to me.

So you go your religious way, and I'll go mine, and we'll both be happy. :o)

226 posted on 10/30/2003 5:39:53 PM PST by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999 !!!!)
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To: Lazamataz
I have no problem with your choice of worship. I do have a problem with the misrepresentation of my faith. To each his own.

Sobran seems anti-semitic to me. I don't give him a pass just because he writes well.
227 posted on 10/30/2003 6:10:22 PM PST by Honey West
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To: Poohbah; mrustow
I suspect the reason this article doesn't appear on google is that it's part of a monthly newsletter. It's not on Sobran's site with an independently searchable title.
228 posted on 10/30/2003 6:13:09 PM PST by SJackson
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To: AmishDude
I look on Townhall.com, which has Reese, Sobran and Buchanan as columnists as well as a raft of neocons. Let's go to your names:

Robert Locke: Not there
Jim Kalb: Not there
Lawrence Auster: Not there
Matthew Alexander: Not there
Paul Gottfried: Not there
Serge
[sic] Trifkovic: Not there

For all I know, you could have been listing your bridge club.

Now, I see Trifkovic and Gottfried have written books. Trifkovic wrote "The Sword of the Prophet," a scathing critique of Islam, and Gottfried wrote "After Liberalism: Mass Democracy In The Managerial State" and "Multiculturalism and the Politics of Guilt". But it's impossible for me to evaluate whether either of these men is a paleocon, but it is quite clear that they are not movement-leaders of any kind.

Robert Locke is brilliant. Lawrence Auster is very important, but I have not read as much of his work as I would like. Back during the 90s, I read a lot of journalism from Trifkovic in Chronicles on the wars in the former Yugoslavia, but was unable to determine whose judgment of the war was right. Paul Gottfried is the leading theorist of paleo-conservatism. I am unfamiliar with Jim Kalb and Matthew Alexander.

Since Townhall.com is a mainstream Republican site, citing it as a criticism of Gottfried, et al., is ludicrous. Do a google search of each of the names in question, do your homework, and then you'll be able to make evaluations. It's very possible.

229 posted on 10/30/2003 6:24:05 PM PST by mrustow (no tag)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Lately he's taken to cavorting with Holocaust deniers. What a loser.
230 posted on 10/30/2003 6:35:45 PM PST by veronica ("I just realised I have a perfect part for you in "Terminator 4"....)
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To: SJackson
I believe Sobran was the Vice-Presidential candidate on the 2000 Constitution Party ticket with Howard Phillips

Poor Sobran - he's so dense he didn't know he was on the ticket with a Jew? Just goes to show you, they're everywhere! (thank God).
231 posted on 10/30/2003 6:36:23 PM PST by safisoft
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To: rmlew
Well, as I was sort of getting at, your spelling was fine, you just happened to grab the wrong words. S'okay - happens to the best of us. You should see some of my morning posts before I make it to the coffee machine ;)
232 posted on 10/30/2003 6:55:36 PM PST by general_re ("I am Torgo. I take care of the place while the Master is away.")
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To: SJackson
I suspect the reason this article doesn't appear on google is that it's part of a monthly newsletter. It's not on Sobran's site with an independently searchable title.

That makes sense. Is that similar to the situation with blogs and google?

233 posted on 10/30/2003 7:01:14 PM PST by mrustow (no tag)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Sobran seems comfortable with the thought of Israel being destroyed, with a great loss of life and a new Disapora, and really believes that Jews are the root of the ongoing secularization of America (albeit in its own unique still quite religious way), and a more laissez faire attitude about personal life styles. He also I suspects like Pat Buchanan does, the marginalization of influence of Catholics with a pre Vatican II mindset. From that, much else follows, at least for one with a mean spirited heart.

That's my take on Sobranism.

234 posted on 10/30/2003 7:15:30 PM PST by Torie
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To: Sabertooth
I already know my paleo/neo profile. :)
235 posted on 10/30/2003 7:16:53 PM PST by Torie
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To: Al Simmons
Al, here are some plain words of Jesus from the Bible, Gospel of St. John, Chapter 6. They are further clarified at the Last Supper. For 1500 years Christians knew what they meant, but were told then that Jesus really didn't mean exactly what the words say. What do you think they say? Do you also find the saying hard?

[51] I am the living bread which came down from heaven.
[52] If any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever; and the bread that I will give, is my flesh, for the life of the world.
[53] The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying: How can this man give us his flesh to eat?
[54] Then Jesus said to them: Amen, amen I say unto you: Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you.
[55] He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath everlasting life: and I will raise him up in the last day.
[56] For my flesh is meat indeed: and my blood is drink indeed.
[57] He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, abideth in me, and I in him.
[58] As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father; so he that eateth me, the same also shall live by me.
[59] This is the bread that came down from heaven. Not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead. He that eateth this bread, shall live for ever.
[60] These things he said, teaching in the synagogue, in Capharnaum.
[61] Many therefore of his disciples, hearing it, said: This saying is hard, and who can hear it?
236 posted on 10/30/2003 7:26:37 PM PST by Rushian
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To: ambrose
The idea that if only Israel were destroyed, the Arab mentality would become house broken, and it would cease to be a matter of noisome concern to the West, has well, lost a bit of traction, in recent years, hasn't it? The really laughable thing is that with ongoing Jewish cultural assimilation, and reversion to the mean, that ethnic group is ever less distinctive from the American norm. These days, particularly with the generations still some way away from drawing social security checks, the main thing that makes Jews somewhat distinctive, is that they tend on more than the norm to be highly educated with developed intellects. This particular WASP enjoys and appreciates that.
237 posted on 10/30/2003 7:28:45 PM PST by Torie
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To: anotherview
Ask any African-American you care to, even a conservative one, and I bet the answer you get back is "yes"

Then we must start qualifying our epithets then. Since we know that Rush likes and supports black conservatives, then we should call him a liberal black hater. Because Sobran admits his respect for orthodox Jews, then we might want to call him an anti-liberal-semite.

This thread has been an eye-opener. It might be indicative of how much secular liberal thinking has entered into the conservative movement.

You have the PC crowd protecting an entrenched idea. To pose questions or to even be critical of the idea is to draw cries of racist. Then we see a bit of Freudian analysis about the man's childhood and his relationship with a former boss, question his rationality by comparing him to a drug addict, even criticism of his appearance. Complete character assassination.

It's not difficult, by the reaction to him, to assume that he is striking a nerve here. There is an element that appears to want to censor him by completely discrediting him. The odd thing is that he is one of the most articulate defenders of our constitution. He is spot on in his critiques of the culture of death, the gay agenda, and the bankruptcy of liberalism, yet he is reviled by conservatives. It makes me wonder if there is not something true about neoconservatives not being conservative at all.

If given a choice between a candidate who said he'd outlaw abortion, stop all illegal immigration, actually eliminate the Dept. of Education, increase military spending, cut taxes with out increasing spending, reduce spending on all govt. programs, and end all aid to Israel and a choice of, say, Bill Clinton, who would double aid to Israel....well, one should wonder who the conservatives on this forum would choose.

238 posted on 10/30/2003 7:46:28 PM PST by St.Chuck
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To: St.Chuck
If given a choice between a candidate who said he'd outlaw abortion, stop all illegal immigration, actually eliminate the Dept. of Education, increase military spending, cut taxes with out increasing spending, reduce spending on all govt. programs, and end all aid to Israel and a choice of, say, Bill Clinton, who would double aid to Israel....well, one should wonder who the conservatives on this forum would choose.

I have read previous examples of false dichotomies, but this one takes the cake. Meanwhile, Sobran, if taken seriously, which he is not, because he is a lightweight, would in my mind be exhibit "A" for the intellectual bankruptcy of conservatism.

By the way, is Sobran an economic protectionist, both vis a vis imports, and propping up sunset domestic industries? Just curious, if he has swallowed whole the entirety of the paleo package.

239 posted on 10/30/2003 7:53:26 PM PST by Torie
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To: Rushian
"This saying is hard, and who can hear it?"

I was born, reared and educated Catholic (Sacred Heart School - 1-12), with devout until death Catholic parents.

Being a non-practioner for a few decades I don't remember these quotes from John Chapter 6. Having read them in your post tonight, I agree wholeheartedly with those deciples who thought the saying is hard. Actually it sounds kind of cannibalistic/paganistic.

As a strict constuctionist as far as the US Constitution goes, my main argument is that the authors knew what they meant by the words they wrote and wanted us to understand the meaning of their words. It would seem that the Lord Jesus Christ should be able to meet that same standard. So if your quotes of John's quotes translated through several languages are accurate, I'm disappointed.

240 posted on 10/30/2003 8:21:36 PM PST by Positive
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