For me, GOD is so complex, it is impossible to understand all of the aspects. By using the concept of aspects, I have been able to study each one in more detail.
Posted on 08/18/2004 5:15:34 PM PDT by SJackson
> Sorry, but my belief is based on evidence. It is all around us to see, but some are so predisposed to a naturalistic explanation for everything that they can't (won't) follow the evidence to where it leads.
Replace "naturalistic explanation" with "comforting supernatural explanation," and all of a sudden you've explained Creationists.
Wizard's First Rule:
"People can be made to believe any lie, either because they want it to be true or because they fear that it is.
Wizard's Second Rule:
"...the greatest harm can result from the best intentions."
Wizard's Third Rule:
"Passion rules reason."
Wizard's Fourth Rule:
"...magic in forgiveness..Magic to heal. In forgiveness you grant, and more so in the forgiveness you receive."
Wizard's Fifth Rule:
"Mind what people do, not only what they say, for deeds will betray a lie."
Wizard's Sixth Rule:
"...the only sovereign you can allow to rule you is reason."
> Where are the real Greek gods when you really need them? I mean they were petty, deceitful, jealous, and egotistical...
Sounds like a fun bunch. In actual fact, many of the pre-Christian pagan faiths of Europe had such imperfect gods... and that was the point. The better myths showed the gods as flawed, and showed how those flaws bit 'em in the ass. This is especially true in the case of the Nordic gods, who were somewhat unique in being mortal and woundable. They were gods and lore that taught not by Commandment, but by Example.
> I thought politically correct pagans could only follow the religions of "indigenous pipples."
Think again. But then, being a non-New Age pagan is virtually the antithesis of political correctness.
> It's idiotic for people to want to "restore" ancient religion and then suddenly throw out animal sacrifice because for some reason it's "wrong."
Yeah! Gimme that old-time Judeo-Christianity, where non believers, Sunday workers, adulterers and those who carve birds are stoned to death!
> lighting an Olympic flame in the temple of z*us, which was inaugurated by Hitler
Uh... what? You DO know that the modern Olymics began in, what, 1896 or thereabouts? Are we to believe that Toddler Hitler ahd somethign to do with this?
Personally, the fact that there are multiple forms of religion on Earth, is the best confirmation that GOD has been trying to teach.
It is not how different each of the religions are, but what lessons all of them share in common. That is GOD's lesson, if you have the eyes to see.
It would appear that "neo" = "frickin".
Maybe this will add a little excitement to this thread.
"One man's theology is another man's belly laugh."
"God is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent - it says so right here on the label. If you have a mind capable of believing all three of these divine attributes simultaneously, I have a wonderful bargain for you. No checks, please. Cash and in small bills."
"The most preposterous notion that H. sapiens has ever dreamed up is that the Lord God of Creation, Shaper and Ruler of all the Universes, wants the saccharine adoration of His creatures, can be swayed by their prayers, and becomes petulant if He does not receive this flattery. Yet this absurd fantasy, without a shred of evidence to bolster it, pays all the expenses of the oldest, largest, and least productive industry in all history."
""God split himself in a myriad parts that he might have friends." This may not be true, but it sounds good -- and is no sillier than any other theology."
"History does not record anywhere at any time a religion that has any rational basis...Religion is a crutch for people not strong enough to stand up to the unknown without help. But, like dandruff, most people do have a religion and spend time and money on it and seem to derive considerable pleasure from fiddling with it."
and last but not least...
"Men rarely (if ever) manage to dream up a god superior to themselves. Most gods have the manners and morals of a spoiled child."
Just can't help myself when it comes to things like this, everyone gets up on their high horses and starts spouting off about how great their religion is and how it is the only true religion etc etc.
You guys take yourselves WAY too seriously, have fun, life's short, you're gonna find out soon enough as it is.
Be good to each other, how hard is it?
LMAO!
You Sir, just gave me the best quote I have ever seen on the subject.
After I stop laughing, I will save and archive that quotation.
I knew that you'd like it, but there are gonna be some people really mad at me.
For me, GOD is so complex, it is impossible to understand all of the aspects. By using the concept of aspects, I have been able to study each one in more detail.
As a kid, I liked reading stories about the Greek Gods, so if people want to worship them, I say go ahead. Just don't try that stuff in Muslim countries, or you'll get your hands chopped off or worse
GO FOR IT!
I would drop my Wicca beliefs in a second, if the Muslims supported it!
1 Corinthians 2:14
But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God; for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised.
1 Corinthians 2:14
But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God; for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised.
It's idiotic for people to want to "restore" ancient religion and then suddenly throw out animal sacrifice because for some reason it's "wrong."
Yeah! Gimme that old-time Judeo-Christianity, where non believers, Sunday workers, adulterers and those who carve birds are stoned to death!
All Torah Laws will be restored in the days of Mashiach (yaggi`a veyavo' beqarov beyameynu), including the ones that people don't like. Right and wrong are defined by the Creator of the Universe. If you don't believe in Him, then drop your groundless values and ideals and live like the ants. They don't worry themselves into conniptions trying to improve their society or make progress in their thinking. (And so far as I know, the chr*stians didn't stone anyone. Jews and Noachides, however, did and will, should the Halakhic situation demand it.)
> lighting an Olympic flame in the temple of z*us, which was inaugurated by Hitler
Uh... what? You DO know that the modern Olymics began in, what, 1896 or thereabouts? Are we to believe that Toddler Hitler ahd somethign to do with this?
Sorry, but there was no olympic flame until 1936, when Hitler (mach shemo) suggested the ritual to illustrate that the Germans were the modern heirs of the "aryan" Greeks. Don't know your history, do ya?
> All Torah Laws will be restored in the days of Mashiach (yaggi`a veyavo' beqarov beyameynu), including the ones that people don't like.
Uh, sure. Gonna carve up critters and examine their guts for signs from God, too?
> If you don't believe in Him, then drop your groundless values and ideals and live like the ants.
What the...? Are we speaking the same language?
>but there was no olympic flame until 1936, when Hitler (mach shemo) suggested the ritual to illustrate that the Germans were the modern heirs of the "aryan" Greeks.
IS that a fact?
http://www.olympics.org.uk/olympicmovement/olympicfirsts.asp
"1928: First Olympic Flame to be lit and burned throughout whole Olympic Games"
http://www.nbcolympics.com/ceremony/5035056/detail.html
"The first Olympic flame of the modern era was lit in Amsterdam in 1928."
http://www.amnumsoc.org/exhibits/FullCircle/
"Olympiad IX, Amsterdam, 1928 By 1928, the Olympic festival had settled into a familiar, amicable routine. It is fitting, then, that the Games of the IXth Olympiad were marked by an aura of peace and harmony; for the first time in 16 years, the Germans were once again invited to participate. The first Olympic flame was lit atop a tower next to the stadium; "
http://www.whom.co.uk/squelch/olympic_1992.htm
"The first Olympic flame was seen at Amsterdam - 1928 - and - since then - has burned throughout the duration of the Games. "
>Don't know your history, do ya?
Gosh, I guess not! And here I thought Amsterdam wasn't part of Nazi Germany, and that 1928 came *before* 1933. How wrong I was! Thanks for setting me right! Now, with the understanding the 1928 came after 1933, that Amsterdam is part of Germany, that black is white and freedom is slavery, your world view makes *so* much more sense.
The fact is that in 1936 a flame was lit in the temple of z*us and relayed to Germany to illustrate a link between the ancient Greeks and the Nazis (aryans, y'know). Every reference I have ever heard about the olympic flame is that it didn't begin in 1896 as is commonly supposed but in 1936 (though they seldom explain why). I heard this again recently during this olympics. My apologies for my error.
You sure are pissed off about something. Could it be that you don't like religious people who can't see the "self-evident truth" of your own secular philosophy?
Be as secular as you like, but kindly drop all moral hang-ups. You should be grateful that random, meaningless, self-existent universe brought you forth at all rather than trying to shape it according to your groundless ideals.
Do you believe the only way to salvation is through Christ?
> Seeing as how you were claiming that the flame was lit in 1896 I don't see what you are crowing about.
Hey, I was wrong. But I wasn't comparing the Olympics to the Nazis.
> You sure are pissed off about something.
I'd suggest finding a convenient mirror, and repeating that phrase there.
> your groundless ideals
Wow, do you actually believe that? How sad.
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