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Posted on 08/18/2004 5:15:34 PM PDT by SJackson
It's incredible how people are willing to sell themselves back into slavery and superstition to appease fashion.
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So will I just to see if the women's synchronized swimming is performed in the nude, just like they did in ancient Greece. |
Just another example of worshiping the created instead of the creator!
What channel?
Can't believe I missed it!
However, as a Wiccan for well over 30 years now, my goal has always been to reconstruct the beliefs of the ancient Celts.
I am also very much a Christian and have never understood why these two forms of religions are considered to be in conflict. The two religions were so compatible, that Christianity was able to sweep through Celtic Europe like wild-fire when it was introduced by Rome. For the ancient Celts, there was no conflict.
As for the age of the modern Wicca religion, you are correct. Until just after WWII, it was a criminal offense to write a book on this subject. Gerald Gardner was the first person to legally publish a book after the laws in Britain were changed. For obvious and legal reasons, it would have been impossible for the modern Wicca religion to be known outside of a private society, until 50 years ago.
Personally, in my own case, this quest is only 32 years old.
As for the other things you said, since I have known many of the original people personally, I will not argue. I may snicker perhaps, but I will not argue.
Valerie always did enjoy using a light self-whipping to help herself get into a trance state. That is what worked for her, but every person is different. Personally, it never did anything for me.
Please remember, I am also a Christian and simply want to understand how God has been revealed to all civilizations on Earth. God uses methods to teach lessons in ways that people can understand, and every civilization is different.
There is only one GOD, but GOD has multiple aspects.
GOD is not a little old man like George Burns. GOD is so complex, it is almost impossible for any human to comprehend all of it. Segmenting the different aspects of GOD, is simply a method for humans to use in their quest toward understanding.
With many civilizations, labeling different aspects of GOD was an easy way for the people to understand. With the ancient pagans, each of the different aspects of GOD was given a different name. That is why there was a "God of War" and a "Goddess of Love"; along with way too many others to name here.
So, please do not personally attack me for my quest to understand GOD. As a person with a firm belief and faith in GOD, I have done the best that I can.
Well, if my relies are not deleted by the Admin Moderator, I am more than happy to be intellectually honest with any of your questions.
For obvious reasons, I keep a rather low profile on FR about my religious beliefs.
NOTE: I can not stand New Age idiots!
I presuume you're talking about Britain, not the US. If not, I'd be interested in the background of that assertation. If you're speaking about the Brits, that might be interesting to hear about as well.
As I understand it, Britain was the first to make publishing books on this subject legal, and the United States followed about 5 years later.
Tonight, I can only go by memory. However, I will provide exact information to those who request it, once I have a chance do dig out my old books and verify the information.
By the early 1970's, books on this subject became commonly available in the United States. In 1972, I read my first book on this subject in the local library.
1) This turning to pre-chr*stian European paganism seems kinda Nazi to me. I thought politically correct pagans could only follow the religions of "indigenous pipples."
2) It's idiotic for people to want to "restore" ancient religion and then suddenly throw out animal sacrifice because for some reason it's "wrong." Religion defines what is right and wrong, so if you're religion tells you animal sacrifice is okay, you should believe it's okay. More evidence of our skewed modern concept of a morality differentiated from (and above) religion. (Not that I'm sorry that animals aren't going to be sacrificed to false "gxds." But when the Great and Holy Temple of Jerusalem is rebuilt, there will be no sitting in judgment on the morality of the commandments of HaShem!)
3) The Olympics are pagan enough as they are (lighting an Olympic flame in the temple of z*us, which was inaugurated by Hitler, mach shemo), and the opening ceremonies celebrating man's evolution as a "logical being" struck me as the root of today's materialist idealism (Richard Dawkins, Stephen Hawking, etc.).
Oh well. At least now the "palaeos" can really go crazy with the heritage of "western man!"
"And if you don't agree, I'll sic Athena on you and she'll turn you into a spider. Or maybe a deer. Wait, that was Diana. I'll do it, too. Just ask anyone. Ask Bullfinch. Hey, do you have a spaceship I could borrow?"
Honestly, some people...
Thanks for the example. ;-)
But ultimately, people define religion, so...
Those of us who have studied the Bible, we all know and understand the concept of a sacrificial lamb. For Christians, Jesus was the final sacrifice and the letting of blood is no longer required by GOD.
NOTE: In my view, New Age liberals are idiots!
I'm no fan of made-up religions followed by New Agers but reconstructionists for Roman (or Greek) religion interest me, as at least that was a religion at one time. It sounds odd to us today but that was as current as the Christian church down the street or the synagogue across town are now. My favorite part of the New Testament is where St Paul sees the altar in Greece marked "To the Unknown God". It wasn't "ancient Greek religion" to him, and he doesn't curse it or denounce it, but uses the altar as the starting point for his calm, reasoned sermon to the crowd.
A lot of "Stargate SG-1" episodes would qualify too. One of the premises of the show is that the ancient "gods" were actually members of a highly advanced but cruel alien race, who posed as gods in order dominate and enslave humanity.
LOL!
That's true. Stargate SG-1 is also one of my favorite programs, and coincidentally, "Lord Ares" will be introduced soon as the latest baddie.
Actually, I'd sooner believe the premise of this show than that ol' Zeus will be coming down from Mt. Olympus to greet his faithful...
Frankly, I don't have enough faith to be an atheist.
God is life, and life is God.
> There is one God.
Yes, and his name is Odin. But there is another god, and his name is Thor. And there's yet another god, and his name is Tyr.And so on...
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