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'Our Gods and Goddesses Are Closer to Us' [Sacrifice pineapple, not bull]
Beliefnet ^ | 8-18-04 | Kimberly Winston

Posted on 08/18/2004 5:15:34 PM PDT by SJackson

How modern pagans are reviving the polytheistic religions of the ancient Greeks, Druids, Egyptians, and other civilizations.

This year, Andrea Berman will watch the Olympics for the first time in her life. But she doesn't care who will jump the highest, run the farthest or swim the fastest. She'll be watching the games—being held this year in Greece, their ancestral home—for any mention of Zeus, Athena or Apollo.

"I will watch it to see if anything even remotely resembles anything I would know as an ancient ritual and tradition," Berman said. "But I kind of have mixed feelings. On one hand it will be great to see ancient traditions represented. But on the other hand, I know what the country of Greece thinks of our religion and people there who want to do this do not have the religious freedom to do it."

"This" is worship the Greek gods. Berman is a Hellenic reconstructionist–a practitioner of the religion of ancient Greece. A spare bedroom in her Boston area apartment is decorated as a temple room with statues of Apollo, Pan, Artemis, Dionysus and Eros. And like all Hellenic reconstructionists, she knows the original Olympics were not just a massive sportsfest, but a religious rite central to the worship of Zeus, chief among the Greek gods.

Reconstructionists are a group of neo-pagans–people who look to pre-Christian cultures for their faith–different branches of which worship the gods of ancient Norse, Roman, Egyptian, and Druid peoples. And while scholars say their numbers are only a fraction of the neo-pagan community, they also say they are a vibrant illustration of the rejection of traditional religion in the United States. And, in a curious boomerang effect, they are part of a movement away from the more eclectic forms of neo-paganism, like Wicca, taken up by pagan pioneers in the 1960s and 1970s.

"Reconstructionist groups seem to be kind of in the middle," said Sean McCloud a professor of religion and modern culture at the University of North Carolina in Charlotte. "On the one hand they want to embrace a coherent religion where they are not making things up. On the other hand, it is not the religion of their parents."

That is certainly true of Berman, a 26-year-old web developer who was raised in a non-religious home by a Jewish father and a Catholic mother. As a young teenager, she practiced Wicca. By college, she was into Celtic spirituality, but moved to the Greek gods literally overnight when, she recalled, a god appeared to her in a dream and said, "I am Apollo. You belong to me."

On a Saturday afternoon in July, Berman, known in her faith as Kyrene Ariadne, dressed in a long silky skirt of blue roses to join three likeminded worshippers and a guest to mark the Bouphonia, or Greek new year. The two men and three women assembled in the hall outside the temple room and chanted together from a prepared script:

"Hestia, tender of the hearth, first among gods, you sit at the center; steadily burns your flame."

In solemn single file, they moved into the room to form a circle about a center altar draped with a black cloth and set with a candle and brass bowl of burning frankincense. They poured water into a bowl to wash their hands and faces, then raised their palms to the sides of the their faces as they continued to chant hymns to Pan, Artemis and Zeus:

"I shall sing of Zeus, the best and the greatest of Gods, Far-seeing, mighty, fulfiller of designs who confides His tight-knit schemes to Themis and she sits leaning upon Him.

Have mercy, far-seeing Kronides, most glorious and great."

After the ceremony, which included the ritual disemboweling of a loaf of bread representing a sacrificial bull, the group shared a meal of hummus, pita, dolmatas and rice pudding around Berman's dining room table.

Berman, who wears a sun pendant as a symbol of Apollo, said venerating the Greek gods brings her a sense of peace and connection she has found nowhere else.

"I don't know how to describe it except to say that I felt like I was coming home," she said. "I know it is where I want to be."

No one knows exactly how many neo-pagan reconstructionists there are. There is no formal membership, no centralized authority like a church or a seminary, though several groups run clergy training programs. But Helen Berger, a religion sociologist and author of "Voices from the Pagan Census: A National Survey of Witches and Neo-Pagans in the United States" (University of South Carolina Press, 2003), estimates there are between 200,000 and 400,000 neo-pagans in this country. Reconstructionists, she said, are a sliver of the whole picture.

Because their numbers are so small, the majority of reconstructionists are "sole practitioners," conducting rituals, ceremonies and study on their own. Because of their isolation, and because many are young enough to have been raised with computers, the internet serves as a pipeline to the broader reconstructionist community. There are numerous websites and chatrooms devoted to each of the reconstructionist faiths, outlining the customary worship of the various gods, the origins of festivals, and the proper preparation of rituals.

Jennifer Guimaraes, a 22-year-old Las Vegas homemaker and mother, says the internet is vital to her worship of the Greek gods. She and her boyfriend, also a Hellenic reconstructionist, founded Thiasos Dionysos, an online discussion group dedicated to the Greek god of wine and agriculture with about 60 regular participants. Members exchange information online, but worship on their own.

Guimaraes, who came to the Greek gods after a period practicing Wicca, says tapping into the ancient rituals of the past brings a sense of authenticity she has not found in other religions.

"Even though a lot of people consider it a dead religion, reconstructionists approach it in a way that it is not dead. It is personal. If you crave some sort of tradition, this is where people are going to look for it."

It isn't just the Greek gods that are enjoying revived interest. There are Egyptian, Norse, Roman, Celtic and Druidic reconstructionists as well, with small groups of six to thirty people meeting in places as varied as Texas, California, Florida and Illinois.

Paula Ashton is a 35-year-old executive assistant in Chicago and a member of the Kemetic Orthodox faith, a group that worships the Egyptian gods. Kemetic Orthodox recently made the leap from online community to a physical one with the opening of a temple in Joliet, Ill.

"It seems to me like I have personal relationship to my god," Ashton said of what draws her to her faith and the goddess known as Aset, or Isis. "She is looking out for me. Then I look at strangers and they, too, have a personal connection with their god, be it Jesus or whoever, and we are all connected. We are all part of this. It helps me understand strangers better. It helps me understand humanity better. It helps me get in touch with the rest of the world, it helps me be more compassionate."

In Walnut Creek, Calif. Stefn [CQ] Thorsman is "steersman," or chief executive, for the Troth, an organization of affiliated "kindreds," or small groups, and solo practitioners of Asatru, a form of Norse reconstructionism. Thorsman, a stand-up comedian, said one of the appeals of Norse polytheism is that it reveres the divine in all things, living and inanimate, male or female.

"Our gods and goddesses are closer to us," he said. "We don't grovel before them. We stand before them. We don't look to them for perfection. Just as there is male and female in all of nature there, there is male and female in the spirit world. Having a male, all-seeing, all-perfect, very angry and vindictive God just did not call to me."

In meetings, Asatruars study and discuss the gods of the Norse pantheon–Thor, Freya, Frigg and Odin among them. They celebrate a number of festivals, including the "freyfaxi," a harvest festival, and the "einherjar," a celebration of those killed in battle.

Offline reconstructionist groups are rare, though their numbers appear to be growing. Berman's group, called Hellenion, made the leap from cyberspace to temple space in 2001 when they founded as a religious non-profit and began holding monthly worship services. By the end of that year they numbered three "demoi," or congregations, though the largest was Berman's with seven members. There are now nine Hellenion groups in places as far away from Athens, Greece as Jackson, Miss., Lancaster, Penn, northeastern Ohio and Dallas, Tex.

Like most reconstructionists, Hellenion's members want to reproduce the ancient rituals as closely as possible. But this is a problem when it comes to animal sacrifice, which the Greeks performed routinely. At the ancient Olympics, 100 bulls were sacrificed to Zeus. But at July's Bouphonia, Hellenion members decorated a hollowed-out loaf of bread with two small brown cones inserted in one end to represent horns. The crusty loaf had been hollowed out and filled with barley to represent blood.

During the ceremony, Tim Anderson, a 19-year-old college student studying for the Hellenion clergy, lifted the bread over his head and pierced it with a knife. The barley fell into a bowl that he then raised over his head and presented to the gods as an offering and left on the altar as sacred to Demeter and Persephone. He then handed the gutted bread to Kyrene Ariadne and asked if she would "scry for divinations."

"For obvious reasons, we don't want to sacrifice a bull," Berman said later. "We have lots of arguments in our community about the purity of ritual, but this is one thing that people generally agree on–that doing animal sacrifice is outdated and has lost any original meaning it once had."

Berger, the religion sociologist, says this is where the reconstructionists, so dedicated to the past, are actually doing something quite original. While most say they are dedicated to the past, they are, like most neo-pagans, innovative and creative when it comes to the actual practice.

"It is more or less like post-modern architecture," said Berger, who once attended a reconstructionist ceremony in which a pineapple was sacrificed. "They are taking bits and pieces of things from different places and making something that is really contemporary."

Peering into the gutted "bull," Berman reported to the group that she saw the Greek letter lambda, and books on the temple room's shelves revealed it meant a sinister thing or event may be a blessing in disguise. Berman sees this as a positive sign. She expects interest in Hellenic reconstructionism to rise after the Olympics, as it did after this year's television broadcast of "The Odyssey" and the release of the movie "Troy," when the number of hits to Hellenion's website spiked.

That's fine with Berman, who hopes others will find their way to the Greek gods.

"Doing group worship is so much different than doing it alone," she said. "I feel like I am in touch with something. I feel like I am not the only one."


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To: SJackson

It's incredible how people are willing to sell themselves back into slavery and superstition to appease fashion.


21 posted on 08/18/2004 6:26:37 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: SJackson
"I will watch it to see if anything even remotely resembles anything I would know as an ancient ritual and tradition,"

 

So will I just to see if the women's synchronized swimming is performed in the nude, just like they did in ancient Greece.

 

22 posted on 08/18/2004 6:27:48 PM PDT by Fintan (Got gum????)
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To: MikalM

Just another example of worshiping the created instead of the creator!


23 posted on 08/18/2004 6:32:26 PM PDT by loboinok
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To: Fintan
So will I just to see if the women's synchronized swimming is performed in the nude, just like they did in ancient Greece.

What channel?

Can't believe I missed it!

24 posted on 08/18/2004 6:43:15 PM PDT by SJackson (We’ll cut the tongues of anybody who speaks badly about us-not accept gangsterism by Cowboys, Nasser)
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To: MikalM
TRUE!

However, as a Wiccan for well over 30 years now, my goal has always been to reconstruct the beliefs of the ancient Celts.

I am also very much a Christian and have never understood why these two forms of religions are considered to be in conflict. The two religions were so compatible, that Christianity was able to sweep through Celtic Europe like wild-fire when it was introduced by Rome. For the ancient Celts, there was no conflict.

As for the age of the modern Wicca religion, you are correct. Until just after WWII, it was a criminal offense to write a book on this subject. Gerald Gardner was the first person to legally publish a book after the laws in Britain were changed. For obvious and legal reasons, it would have been impossible for the modern Wicca religion to be known outside of a private society, until 50 years ago.

Personally, in my own case, this quest is only 32 years old.

As for the other things you said, since I have known many of the original people personally, I will not argue. I may snicker perhaps, but I will not argue.

Valerie always did enjoy using a light self-whipping to help herself get into a trance state. That is what worked for her, but every person is different. Personally, it never did anything for me.

Please remember, I am also a Christian and simply want to understand how God has been revealed to all civilizations on Earth. God uses methods to teach lessons in ways that people can understand, and every civilization is different.

There is only one GOD, but GOD has multiple aspects.

GOD is not a little old man like George Burns. GOD is so complex, it is almost impossible for any human to comprehend all of it. Segmenting the different aspects of GOD, is simply a method for humans to use in their quest toward understanding.

With many civilizations, labeling different aspects of GOD was an easy way for the people to understand. With the ancient pagans, each of the different aspects of GOD was given a different name. That is why there was a "God of War" and a "Goddess of Love"; along with way too many others to name here.

So, please do not personally attack me for my quest to understand GOD. As a person with a firm belief and faith in GOD, I have done the best that I can.

25 posted on 08/18/2004 6:46:21 PM PDT by Hunble
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To: jamesnwu
I've never met an intelligent, intellectually honest Wiccan.

Well, if my relies are not deleted by the Admin Moderator, I am more than happy to be intellectually honest with any of your questions.

For obvious reasons, I keep a rather low profile on FR about my religious beliefs.

NOTE: I can not stand New Age idiots!

26 posted on 08/18/2004 6:50:53 PM PDT by Hunble
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To: Hunble
Until just after WWII, it was a criminal offense to write a book on this subject.

I presuume you're talking about Britain, not the US. If not, I'd be interested in the background of that assertation. If you're speaking about the Brits, that might be interesting to hear about as well.

27 posted on 08/18/2004 6:52:46 PM PDT by SJackson (We’ll cut the tongues of anybody who speaks badly about us-not accept gangsterism by Cowboys, Nasser)
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To: SJackson
I do not have the exact dates available at the moment, but if interested, send me a private FR mail and I will get the exact dates for you.

As I understand it, Britain was the first to make publishing books on this subject legal, and the United States followed about 5 years later.

Tonight, I can only go by memory. However, I will provide exact information to those who request it, once I have a chance do dig out my old books and verify the information.

By the early 1970's, books on this subject became commonly available in the United States. In 1972, I read my first book on this subject in the local library.

28 posted on 08/18/2004 7:02:05 PM PDT by Hunble
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To: SJackson
Several comments:

1) This turning to pre-chr*stian European paganism seems kinda Nazi to me. I thought politically correct pagans could only follow the religions of "indigenous pipples."

2) It's idiotic for people to want to "restore" ancient religion and then suddenly throw out animal sacrifice because for some reason it's "wrong." Religion defines what is right and wrong, so if you're religion tells you animal sacrifice is okay, you should believe it's okay. More evidence of our skewed modern concept of a morality differentiated from (and above) religion. (Not that I'm sorry that animals aren't going to be sacrificed to false "gxds." But when the Great and Holy Temple of Jerusalem is rebuilt, there will be no sitting in judgment on the morality of the commandments of HaShem!)

3) The Olympics are pagan enough as they are (lighting an Olympic flame in the temple of z*us, which was inaugurated by Hitler, mach shemo), and the opening ceremonies celebrating man's evolution as a "logical being" struck me as the root of today's materialist idealism (Richard Dawkins, Stephen Hawking, etc.).

Oh well. At least now the "palaeos" can really go crazy with the heritage of "western man!"

29 posted on 08/18/2004 7:14:37 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (What part of "lo yihyeh lekhah 'elohim 'acherim `al panay" DON'T you understand???)
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To: SJackson
By college, she was into Celtic spirituality, but moved to the Greek gods literally overnight when, she recalled, a god appeared to her in a dream and said, "I am Apollo. You belong to me."

"And if you don't agree, I'll sic Athena on you and she'll turn you into a spider. Or maybe a deer. Wait, that was Diana. I'll do it, too. Just ask anyone. Ask Bullfinch. Hey, do you have a spaceship I could borrow?"

Honestly, some people...

30 posted on 08/18/2004 7:18:27 PM PDT by Tangerine Time Machine (Orange you glad it's not a lemon?)
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To: dukeman
It's truly sad that some folks will believe just about anything. There is one God.

Thanks for the example. ;-)

31 posted on 08/18/2004 7:22:15 PM PDT by Ichneumon ("...she might as well have been a space alien." - Bill Clinton, on Hillary, "My Life", p. 182)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
It's idiotic for people to want to "restore" ancient religion and then suddenly throw out animal sacrifice because for some reason it's "wrong." Religion defines what is right and wrong

But ultimately, people define religion, so...

32 posted on 08/18/2004 7:26:14 PM PDT by Ichneumon ("...she might as well have been a space alien." - Bill Clinton, on Hillary, "My Life", p. 182)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Other than your Hitler and Nazi statements, you have some good arguments.

Those of us who have studied the Bible, we all know and understand the concept of a sacrificial lamb. For Christians, Jesus was the final sacrifice and the letting of blood is no longer required by GOD.

NOTE: In my view, New Age liberals are idiots!

33 posted on 08/18/2004 7:26:54 PM PDT by Hunble
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To: SJackson

I'm no fan of made-up religions followed by New Agers but reconstructionists for Roman (or Greek) religion interest me, as at least that was a religion at one time. It sounds odd to us today but that was as current as the Christian church down the street or the synagogue across town are now. My favorite part of the New Testament is where St Paul sees the altar in Greece marked "To the Unknown God". It wasn't "ancient Greek religion" to him, and he doesn't curse it or denounce it, but uses the altar as the starting point for his calm, reasoned sermon to the crowd.


34 posted on 08/18/2004 7:28:36 PM PDT by Moonmad27 (Vote for GWB in November - we MUST win.)
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To: mikrofon
That's what happens when you leave the TV on overnight...

A lot of "Stargate SG-1" episodes would qualify too. One of the premises of the show is that the ancient "gods" were actually members of a highly advanced but cruel alien race, who posed as gods in order dominate and enslave humanity.

35 posted on 08/18/2004 7:31:40 PM PDT by Ichneumon ("...she might as well have been a space alien." - Bill Clinton, on Hillary, "My Life", p. 182)
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To: mikrofon
That's what happens when you leave the TV on overnight...

LOL!

36 posted on 08/18/2004 7:40:20 PM PDT by radiohead (All I really needed to know, I learned on Star Trek.)
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To: Ichneumon

That's true. Stargate SG-1 is also one of my favorite programs, and coincidentally, "Lord Ares" will be introduced soon as the latest baddie.

Actually, I'd sooner believe the premise of this show than that ol' Zeus will be coming down from Mt. Olympus to greet his faithful...


37 posted on 08/18/2004 7:56:51 PM PDT by mikrofon (A SciFiFan)
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To: Ichneumon
Sorry, but my belief is based on evidence. It is all around us to see, but some are so predisposed to a naturalistic explanation for everything that they can't (won't) follow the evidence to where it leads.

Frankly, I don't have enough faith to be an atheist.

38 posted on 08/18/2004 8:33:09 PM PDT by dukeman
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To: dukeman
No arguments on that point from me. You can see God all around you each and every day, if you have the eyes to see.

God is life, and life is God.

39 posted on 08/18/2004 8:54:07 PM PDT by Hunble
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To: dukeman

> There is one God.

Yes, and his name is Odin. But there is another god, and his name is Thor. And there's yet another god, and his name is Tyr.And so on...


40 posted on 08/18/2004 9:00:57 PM PDT by orionblamblam
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