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Republicans Head to Convention Divided on Gun Ban
CNS News ^ | 19 August 2004 | Robert B Bluey

Posted on 08/19/2004 10:21:25 AM PDT by 45Auto

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To: Constitution Day; 45Auto
This is my hot-button issue as well. I can forgive a politician for spending too much money. I can understand when he is pressured to accept some positions that I totally disagree with in order to get elected. But I can't let him off the hook on the Second Amendment.

You're either with us, or you're with the terrorists. And I don't vote for terrorists.

41 posted on 08/19/2004 12:18:43 PM PDT by Sender (A lawyer with his briefcase can steal more than a hundred men with guns.)
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To: Dead Corpse
Those in the "gun culture" are the single largest "swing vote" out there as Bush the Elder got to find out.

You would think the dumba$$es in D.C. would remember that. We shall see.

42 posted on 08/19/2004 12:19:50 PM PDT by Double Tap
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To: Double Tap
You would think the dumba$$es in D.C. would remember that.

Fire up the typewriter and remind them. I did. As you say though... we shall see. Bush let's this die, he's got my vote locked.

43 posted on 08/19/2004 12:21:25 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Dead Corpse
Bush let's this die, he's got my vote locked.

I agree.

44 posted on 08/19/2004 12:24:18 PM PDT by Double Tap
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To: 45Auto
Amen....

Pubbies: Do not extend this thing. Don't do it or I, and most folks I happen to know, will not vote for any of you again.

45 posted on 08/19/2004 12:26:57 PM PDT by Cogadh na Sith (The Guns of Brixton)
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To: RogueIsland
I'd recommend buying any toys you want before then.

Darn straight. Bushmaster, ArmaLite and several other companies are going to have a very good fall this year. Very good indeed. If Kerry wins, God forbid, I'm getting a second mortgage for toys before his inauguration.

46 posted on 08/19/2004 12:27:11 PM PDT by Sender (A lawyer with his briefcase can steal more than a hundred men with guns.)
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To: Double Tap

I can't figure why Bob Bluey wrote this article; for all appearences, he is "one of us", i.e., a conservative. The whole story seems to a concoction of his; like he wrote it to stir people up and generally PO RKBA advocates. If any moron even brings this up in a speech at the GOP convention, he should be hauled off the stage and taken out back for a lesson in manners.


47 posted on 08/19/2004 12:29:55 PM PDT by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: 45Auto

"They better let it die" Bump.


48 posted on 08/19/2004 12:30:23 PM PDT by hattend (I'm on the Mark Steyn Ping List! I'm somebody!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
It is practically KILLING the gun grabbers to lose his battle. I wouldn't put it past them to arm some deranged lunatic with an "assault weapon" and turn him loose on the streets just to drum up more support.

KRLA news was playing a soundbite all day yesterday of the Los Angeles Police Chief telling everyone that they risk another auto weapons shootout on the streets of LA if the AWB is allowed to sunset.

49 posted on 08/19/2004 12:34:55 PM PDT by hattend (I'm on the Mark Steyn Ping List! I'm somebody!)
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To: 45Auto
I don't honestly see any division within the party (beyond the wishful thinking of this reporter and the Brady Bunch). The AWB will die. If Kerry does get in, look for the biggest surge in "black rifle" and hi-cap magazine sales in history between November and January.

It's a dumb issue, really. If Kerry does swing wildly to the left and come out for a new ban, we're looking at a repeat of 2000, and I don't think even his staff is stupid enough to let that happen (although I might be wrong; they haven't covered themselves with glory so far). If Bush does come right out and state that he'll veto it if it gets to him he risks alienating the urban on-the-fencers and gaining no votes that won't already come his way when the AWB dies quietly less than a month from now.

It's the anti-gun fanatics who are beating the drums, trying to get their pet issue some prominence that it would not otherwise deserve. I think they'll fail - it's just not an issue either guy wants to touch, and for good reason.

50 posted on 08/19/2004 12:40:42 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Blood of Tyrants
It is practically KILLING the gun grabbers to lose his battle.

Yeah, ain't that a shame...BWAHAHAHAHHAAAA!

51 posted on 08/19/2004 12:40:58 PM PDT by BikerTrash (Enough already with the carnival freak show...bring back COOL!)
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To: 45Auto

Stories like this make me wonder if these squishy, bedwetting, limpwristed, polo shirt wearing, countryclubbing, latte sipping, bunch of pantywaists in luxury SUVs even want to win. I truly suspect that they really prefer sitting around the clubhouse after a round of golf grousing about what the Dems voted to approve today rather than being the ones who actually decide what is or isn't passed into law. Bitching about what happens is certainly easier than actually leading, but I never thought that I'd see people in positions of responsibility who prefer it.


52 posted on 08/19/2004 12:41:19 PM PDT by Redcloak (This is my most clever tag line ever!)
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To: hattend

And people are stupid enough to believe him. Never mind that the shootout happened in '98, four years AFTER the AWB had been in place and never mind that the rifles the perps had were ILLEGAL full auto conversions and never mind that the AWB doesn't cover these any way!


53 posted on 08/19/2004 12:43:52 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: RogueIsland
I feel that the NRA has failed to do a good job educating their members, let alone the public, about such things as "assault weapons", etc. I saw a an article with a poll that said an April 23 survey by the Annenberg Public Policy Center, a research arm of the University of Pennsylvania, found that 71 percent of the public supports continuation of the ban, compared with 23 percent opposed.

Among gun-owning households, 64 percent support the ban, according to the Annenberg survey of 28,446 adults. In homes with an NRA member, 46 percent said they want to extend the prohibition, compared with 49 percent opposing the law.

The numbers for the gun owner homes should be more like under 30% for extending and 70+% against the ban and the NRA homes should be more like less than 5% for extending and 95+% against the ban. That alone would bring the % of public support down and the % of public opposition up, although if done right the public would also be lower than those numbers.

54 posted on 08/19/2004 12:45:13 PM PDT by looscnnn ("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
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To: 45Auto
I have contacted my Reps. (Wilson and Pierce) on this issue. NM has numerous sportsmen and they know it. I didn't bother with Udall. He is a far-left RAT and represents the morthern part of the state.
Let your Representatives know that you are CLOSELY WATCHING on the AW ban.
55 posted on 08/19/2004 12:48:26 PM PDT by wjcsux (Don't be a girly man! Vote Republican!)
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To: Joe Brower

If the NRA doesn't think there's any difference between GWB(as some have stated) and that the lying traitor: John F'n Kerry why do they print anti-Kerry stuff in every NRANews.com newsletter?

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56 posted on 08/19/2004 12:48:56 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: nickcarraway
Even the Democrats are running from this issue now- why would republicans touch it.

Because they're Republicans, of course!

57 posted on 08/19/2004 1:03:10 PM PDT by Grut
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To: 45Auto; Joe Brower

The article is great for bookmarking. These RINOs should be targets in the future primaries. The militia of Flight 93, our only effective defense on September 11, 2001, is the best example.


58 posted on 08/19/2004 1:05:01 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: Joe Brower
"If it is allowed to expire, it will be President Bush's fault, and we'll let people know that," said Chad Ramsey, a regional director for the Brady Campaign.
Is this guy dense?! There are a whole slew of names listed later in this article who are more responsible than the POTUS for the passage or expiration of this piece of manure legislation, but that doesn't get in the way of demagoguery does it.

You gonna let the people know about those in the House and Senate who let it expire too dangling Chad?

59 posted on 08/19/2004 1:22:41 PM PDT by philman_36
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To: PinnedAndRecessed
Love your 'about' page. The Mrs. loves her 629 and will never part with it.

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60 posted on 08/19/2004 1:41:27 PM PDT by Lurker ( Rope, tree, liberal. Adult assembly required.)
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