Posted on 08/19/2004 10:21:25 AM PDT by 45Auto
If there's one issue on which Republicans usually agree, it's their strong defense of the Second Amendment. But less than two weeks before the GOP convention, moderates and conservatives find themselves at odds over the soon-to-expire semi-automatic gun ban.
In a clash with pro-gun Republicans, President Bush has publicly supported the ban on so-called "assault weapons" dating back to his 2000 presidential campaign. Although he hasn't actively pushed for an extension of the 1994 law, his spokesmen consistently reaffirm his support for it.
The law would sunset Sept. 13 without action from Congress. Republican leaders in the House of Representatives have refused to bring up the matter for debate, and with only four working days left before it expires, even the law's supporters acknowledge it is doomed.
At the same time, however, a band of moderate Republicans have stood in stark opposition to their more conservative colleagues in House leadership posts. They believe enough Republicans would join with Democrats to send a bill to the president's desk.
The Republican-controlled Senate has already voted 52-47 to extend the ban, thanks in part to 10 Republicans who broke ranks. Because the March 2 vote came in the form of an amendment to another bill, the legislation was later voted down in an effort to defeat the measure.
Differences of opinion among Republicans existed in 1994 at the time Congress approved the ban. As a result of that vote, former President Bill Clinton estimated it cost 20 Democrats their jobs, giving Republicans control of Congress.
Political observers disagree whether the stakes are as high today, but both gun-control advocates and Second Amendment supporters suggested Bush ought to tread carefully.
"President Bush has made some key mistakes, such as saying he would sign an extension of the gun ban," said Erich Pratt, spokesman for Gun Owners of America, which has voiced some of the most stringent criticism of Bush as a result of his support for the ban.
By essentially staking out the same stance as his Democrat challenger, Sen. John Kerry, Bush has hurt his reputation with gun owners, Pratt said.
"The president has almost shot himself in the foot in that he has taken away one of the huge magnets that pulled Democratic voters over to his side of the fence," Pratt told CNSNews.com.
Gun-control groups like Americans for Gun Safety have made much of Bush's support for extending the ban. One of its advisers, Matt Bennett, said there's little difference between Bush and Kerry as a result.
"On the major issues of the day, Kerry and Bush are virtually identical in at least what they say about the gun issue," Bennett told CNSNews.com. "Bush has said he supports extending the assault weapons ban, he said he supports closing the gun-show loophole, he said he supports cracking down on gun crime. These are the things Kerry talks about when it comes to guns."
That's what Pratt said worries him, especially if voters buy into that argument. It's not as much of a concern for the National Rifle Association, which downplayed the gun ban's impact on the presidential race.
"We actually don't think it will play a big role in the election because we're cautiously optimistic that it will sunset on Sept. 13," said Kelly Hobbs, the NRA's spokeswoman.
But those on the other side of the gun debate see things differently. The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, a leading advocate of renewing the ban, has predicted a backlash against Bush should he not actively campaign for an extension before Sept. 13.
"If it is allowed to expire, it will be President Bush's fault, and we'll let people know that," said Chad Ramsey, a regional director for the Brady Campaign. "He is responsible. It will have expired on his watch. If that's the case, there will be a backlash. People will be angry he let this happen, and people will probably show up at the voting booth with that in mind."
Republicans, meanwhile, aren't saying much. CNSNews.com was unable to reach any of the House moderates who have signed onto legislation to extend the ban. The most outspoken advocate, Rep. Mike Castle (R-Del.), recently held a press conference with Jim and Sarah Brady.
Other House Republican who have bucked their party to support the ban include Reps. Doug Bereuter (Neb.), Tom Davis (Va.), Michael Ferguson (N.J.), Nancy Johnson (Conn.), Peter King (N.Y.), Mark S. Kirk (Ill.), Jack Quinn (N.Y.), Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (Fla.) and Christopher Shays (Conn.).
The more conservative House leaders, Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) and Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Texas), have expressed little desire to bring up the matter for a vote.
In the Senate, the Republican defectors include Sens. Lincoln Chafee (R.I.), Susan Collins (Maine), Mike DeWine (Ohio), Peter Fitzgerald (Ill.), Judd Gregg (N.H.), Richard Lugar (Ind.), Gordon Smith (Ore.), Olympia Snowe (Maine), George Voinovich (Ohio) and John Warner (Va.).
"It is a divisive issue within the Republican Party ... between the moderates and conservatives," said Rob Recklaus, spokesman for Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-N.Y.), who has championed the issue. "It has to do a lot with the NRA leadership, which has the ear of the conservative wing of the Republican Party."
On the issue of the gun ban, however, Bush has strayed from his traditional conservative base. In Pratt's view, it would be best if the president kept his stance under wraps.
"I do think Bush is on one side of it and House leaders are on the other, but that being said, I don't really think it's an issue," Pratt said. "I don't think the president has a desire to push it. I don't think this is an important enough issue for the president. What he has said can only hurt him, but certainly, it won't hurt him as bad if he started actively pushing it."
Ditto that.
Amendment XIX ping.
As I said before, my vote for Bush is riding on this thing sunsetting.
All Elitists, be they Republican or Democrat, want to disarm the peasents.
Gun control as practiced in this country is incremental. First ban the "small concealable" guns, then ban the cheap "Saturday night specials", then ban the "ugly military style" guns, then ban the "sniper rifles", then the "bullet spraying (semi-automatic)" guns. After all this, there isn't much left.
How do you eat a whole elephant? One bite at a time.
These people who want the assault weapon ban continued just don't get it. It is a freedom and a rights issue, not a gun issue.
You know, people talk a lot on FR about single-issue voters.
This is my one issue.
Bush may very well not get the NRA endorsement this time around. Hello, President Kerry.NRA Bush Endorsement Not Certain
NewsMax | 8/10/04 | Dave Eberhart
Since 1980, when Ronald Reagan received the first presidential endorsement by the National Rifle Association, no Republican candidate has lost an election with the endorsement – and no Republican has won without it.
Riiggghtt...
Is this even showing up on anybodies radar screen out side of the pro-second amendment community and the gun control crowd? Is gun control even in the top 20 issues for this campaign? Heck, even the mainstream liberal media isn't even talking about this. I imagine it will make the news cycle for about a day on September 13th when it expires.( and it WILL expire on the 13th since the house hasn't even taken up the issue AND has no plans to AND they are in recess until September 8th.)In a week after it expires it will be totally forgotten as an issue by the "average" American.
He'll get it in just over four weeks, I'll bet. There are only 4 weeks left on the AWB. Nobody but the Feinstein Fringe wants to get anywhere near it this close to the election. It's dead. The NRA is just giving GWB a gentle reminder about proper etiquette on the issue.
What everyone needs to worry about is what happen next year. I'd recommend buying any toys you want before then.
2nd Amendment and Close the Borders/deport the illegal aliens.
Republicans Head to Convention Divided on Gun Ban
The damn well better get undivided.
Is that enough to guarantee that we're safe?
I swear I won't rest easy until this thing dies.
No. I talk to plenty of gun owners who've never even heard of the AWB. That tells me that the large majority of the general population have no clue such a thing even exists.
And why not take a few shots(pun intended) at Mr. Ban the .30-30 Kery as well.
Ahmen and Amen...
tru peace...D
If it's signed, I'll do what I have to do.
I am tired of all of these politicians of both parties ignoring the obvious when it comes to decisions like this. The point that is never made is that the law is blatantly unconstitutional. It really shouldn’t matter what the politically astute thing to do is, or what they think the right thing to do is. The founders already made the decision. It reminds me of churches deciding how they feel about homosexuality. Sorry, it doesn’t matter how you feel, God already decided. I’m not trying to compare our founding fathers to God, but you get the idea. The difference is that there is a way to change the Constitution if you don’t like it. Pass an amendment. Otherwise, anyone who votes for the continuation of this ban should be found as violating their oath of office and impeached. In my opinion, politician’s constant ignoring of the Constitution make them domestic enemies that we should be actively trying to remove from office. Of course, I realize that that would be all of them. I say, that’s a good start.
Thanks for the ping; I was just looking at this thread. 45Auto has it right, any Republican who's on the wrong side of this issue is politically suicidal. And to think that THIS time around they're going to ban all those armor-piercing 30-30s...
Moderate Republicans? Let's call a spade a spade, shall we? Liberal Republicans. ......or RINOs.
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