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If they know what's good for them in November, they will STFU over this issue.
1 posted on 08/19/2004 10:21:26 AM PDT by 45Auto
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To: 45Auto

Ditto that.


2 posted on 08/19/2004 10:22:07 AM PDT by Constitution Day (...Reporting live from the Holy Barbecue City of Wilson, NC...)
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To: biblewonk

Amendment XIX ping.


3 posted on 08/19/2004 10:22:21 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary. You have the right to be wrong.)
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To: 45Auto

As I said before, my vote for Bush is riding on this thing sunsetting.


4 posted on 08/19/2004 10:25:29 AM PDT by stevio (Bumper sticker on my truck "Flush the Johns - Bush/Cheney '04")
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To: 45Auto

All Elitists, be they Republican or Democrat, want to disarm the peasents.

Gun control as practiced in this country is incremental. First ban the "small concealable" guns, then ban the cheap "Saturday night specials", then ban the "ugly military style" guns, then ban the "sniper rifles", then the "bullet spraying (semi-automatic)" guns. After all this, there isn't much left.

How do you eat a whole elephant? One bite at a time.

These people who want the assault weapon ban continued just don't get it. It is a freedom and a rights issue, not a gun issue.


6 posted on 08/19/2004 10:30:14 AM PDT by A. Patriot
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NRA Bush Endorsement Not Certain

NewsMax | 8/10/04 | Dave Eberhart
Since 1980, when Ronald Reagan received the first presidential endorsement by the National Rifle Association, no Republican candidate has lost an election with the endorsement – and no Republican has won without it.
Bush may very well not get the NRA endorsement this time around. Hello, President Kerry.
8 posted on 08/19/2004 10:32:33 AM PDT by newgeezer (Dubya's toast.)
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If it is allowed to expire, it will be President Bush's fault, and we'll let people know that," said Chad Ramsey, a regional director for the Brady Campaign. "He is responsible. It will have expired on his watch. If that's the case, there will be a backlash. People will be angry he let this happen, and people will probably show up at the voting booth with that in mind."

Riiggghtt...

Is this even showing up on anybodies radar screen out side of the pro-second amendment community and the gun control crowd? Is gun control even in the top 20 issues for this campaign? Heck, even the mainstream liberal media isn't even talking about this. I imagine it will make the news cycle for about a day on September 13th when it expires.( and it WILL expire on the 13th since the house hasn't even taken up the issue AND has no plans to AND they are in recess until September 8th.)In a week after it expires it will be totally forgotten as an issue by the "average" American.

9 posted on 08/19/2004 10:36:59 AM PDT by apillar
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To: 45Auto
Don't sign it if you want to win.

And why not take a few shots(pun intended) at Mr. Ban the .30-30 Kery as well.

14 posted on 08/19/2004 10:44:53 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan (A gun owner voting for John Kerry is like a chicken voting for Col. Saunders. (bye bye .30-30))
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I am tired of all of these politicians of both parties ignoring the obvious when it comes to decisions like this. The point that is never made is that the law is blatantly unconstitutional. It really shouldn’t matter what the politically astute thing to do is, or what they think the right thing to do is. The founders already made the decision. It reminds me of churches deciding how they feel about homosexuality. Sorry, it doesn’t matter how you feel, God already decided. I’m not trying to compare our founding fathers to God, but you get the idea. The difference is that there is a way to change the Constitution if you don’t like it. Pass an amendment. Otherwise, anyone who votes for the continuation of this ban should be found as violating their oath of office and impeached. In my opinion, politician’s constant ignoring of the Constitution make them domestic enemies that we should be actively trying to remove from office. Of course, I realize that that would be all of them. I say, that’s a good start.


17 posted on 08/19/2004 10:47:23 AM PDT by tnlibertarian
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18 posted on 08/19/2004 10:57:42 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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At the same time, however, a band of moderate Republicans have stood in stark opposition to their more conservative colleagues in House leadership posts.

Moderate Republicans? Let's call a spade a spade, shall we? Liberal Republicans. ......or RINOs.

20 posted on 08/19/2004 11:01:09 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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It's about the politicaly smartest position Bush could take. I don't know whether it is intentionaly smart or it just works out that way. By saying he would sign the ban if it came to his desk, he wins points with the "soccer mom" crowd.... who, out of ignorance, believe it somehow makes thier kids safer. But Bush knows it isn't going to get to his desk ....therefore he doesn't have to loose points with us gun owners. He's not actively pushing it and he's not actively opposing it...he's just letting it whither on the vine. That's a savvy position. The real test will be to see what happens next year.


21 posted on 08/19/2004 11:05:44 AM PDT by cengel3
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To: 45Auto
Right. Like anyone who listens to the Brady Campaign is going to vote for Bush in the first place.

The only thing this issue can do is lose votes for Bush, if the renewal bill makes it to his desk and he signs it. I repeat, this is the only thing that renewing the Assault Weapons Ban can do for Republicans.

I just hope that they know it, and don't imagine they can pull off some idiotic "triangulation" move.

24 posted on 08/19/2004 11:11:17 AM PDT by Flatus I. Maximus
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It is practically KILLING the gun grabbers to lose his battle. I wouldn't put it past them to arm some deranged lunatic with an "assault weapon" and turn him loose on the streets just to drum up more support.


26 posted on 08/19/2004 11:12:59 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, a leading advocate of renewing the ban, has predicted a backlash against Bush should he not actively campaign for an extension before Sept. 13.

Yeah, right. One only has to luck at the Republican supporters of this crap, all from usual lib locales, the Maine girls, the New England and Midwest Girlymen, give me a break.

28 posted on 08/19/2004 11:20:25 AM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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The President and all elected Republicans, RINO's included, are pulling a manure spreader with the wind at their backs until the AWB sunsets.

Republican voters feel more strongly about this issue than the open borders idiocy.

35 posted on 08/19/2004 12:02:56 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Don't be so open minded that Your Brains Fall Out--Respect shouldn't be given, It Must Be Earned)
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To: 45Auto

Even the Democrats are running from this issue now- why would republicans touch it.


39 posted on 08/19/2004 12:09:21 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: 45Auto
Amen....

Pubbies: Do not extend this thing. Don't do it or I, and most folks I happen to know, will not vote for any of you again.

45 posted on 08/19/2004 12:26:57 PM PDT by Cogadh na Sith (The Guns of Brixton)
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To: 45Auto

"They better let it die" Bump.


48 posted on 08/19/2004 12:30:23 PM PDT by hattend (I'm on the Mark Steyn Ping List! I'm somebody!)
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To: 45Auto
I don't honestly see any division within the party (beyond the wishful thinking of this reporter and the Brady Bunch). The AWB will die. If Kerry does get in, look for the biggest surge in "black rifle" and hi-cap magazine sales in history between November and January.

It's a dumb issue, really. If Kerry does swing wildly to the left and come out for a new ban, we're looking at a repeat of 2000, and I don't think even his staff is stupid enough to let that happen (although I might be wrong; they haven't covered themselves with glory so far). If Bush does come right out and state that he'll veto it if it gets to him he risks alienating the urban on-the-fencers and gaining no votes that won't already come his way when the AWB dies quietly less than a month from now.

It's the anti-gun fanatics who are beating the drums, trying to get their pet issue some prominence that it would not otherwise deserve. I think they'll fail - it's just not an issue either guy wants to touch, and for good reason.

50 posted on 08/19/2004 12:40:42 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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Stories like this make me wonder if these squishy, bedwetting, limpwristed, polo shirt wearing, countryclubbing, latte sipping, bunch of pantywaists in luxury SUVs even want to win. I truly suspect that they really prefer sitting around the clubhouse after a round of golf grousing about what the Dems voted to approve today rather than being the ones who actually decide what is or isn't passed into law. Bitching about what happens is certainly easier than actually leading, but I never thought that I'd see people in positions of responsibility who prefer it.


52 posted on 08/19/2004 12:41:19 PM PDT by Redcloak (This is my most clever tag line ever!)
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