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Republicans Head to Convention Divided on Gun Ban
CNS News ^ | 19 August 2004 | Robert B Bluey

Posted on 08/19/2004 10:21:25 AM PDT by 45Auto

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To: hattend
KRLA news was playing a soundbite all day yesterday of the Los Angeles Police Chief telling everyone that they risk another auto weapons shootout on the streets of LA if the AWB is allowed to sunset.

Did he bother to mention that the same guns, and more, will remain banned under California law? .... Never mind, stupid question.

81 posted on 08/20/2004 4:58:28 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: 45Auto
"It has to do a lot with the NRA leadership, which has the ear of the conservative wing of the Republican Party."

No, Mr. Recklaus, (appropriate last name, by the way), it has to do with the right of the people as enumerated by the Second Ammendment of the Bill of Rights, to keep AND BEAR arms.

82 posted on 08/20/2004 5:00:05 PM PDT by nightdriver
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To: Oberon
I swear I won't rest easy until this thing dies.

Even then it won't be over. The first time some wacko uses a newly purchased "Ugly Black Gun" to shoot up a public place, the circus will start again. Maybe even before, since gun banning elitists don't really need any excuses to try to ban buns.

83 posted on 08/20/2004 5:01:10 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Billthedrill
If Kerry does swing wildly to the left and come out for a new ban, we're looking at a repeat of 2000

Opening his big yap on the issue shouldn't be neccessary, his voting record, and bill sponserhip record (such as it is) speak for themselves. He'll ban any gun, anytime he can get away with it. He'll pack the Courts with like minded folks (which won't be hard since anyone he'd consider would probably already be "living document" type) and then steer a case or two to them to get the second amendment declared a "right" of the federally funded National Guard" once and for all. (But see my tag line)

84 posted on 08/20/2004 5:06:01 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: stevio

It IS sunsetting next month; plan to vote for W on Nov 2, FRiend. I'm in the same foxhole, as you.

Thank Tom DeLay & Co.


85 posted on 08/20/2004 5:10:01 PM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm (• Veni • Vidi • Vino • Visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: 45Auto
Re: Post #5 -

Better for Bush to veto it, and retain the conservatives who'll vote for him, than to sign it, and still lose the moderate voters. Remember, at least two-thirds of these so-called "moderates" (and gun-grabbers) you mentioned are not going to vote for Bush no matter what. He could repeal the 2nd Amendment and they still won't vote for him.

These dumbass RINOs need to be flushed out of the party. That's what I'm worried about. An Olympia Snowe or an Arlen Specter will open their mouths about the need to "come together" or some other crap and force Bush's hand.

86 posted on 08/20/2004 5:17:04 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Redbob
With a few exceptions, like the certifiable Carolyn McCarthy, there's hardly anyone in the House willing to even talk about renewing the Ban.

Which is why the only way it could concievably be renewed would be as an amendment to a bill originating in the Senate, which has too many RINOs and too few pro 2nd amendment Dems, to prevent passage on some "must pass" legislation. Maybe the Homeland Security budget, or another supplemental to pay for the war on the Jihadies. It only takes a sentence or two to renew the ban, and it could be something like:

"Section 110105(2) of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 (18 U.S.C. 921 note) is amended by inserting `, or in the case of the amendments made by section 110102, 20 years,' after `10 years'."

(In fact that exact language is in HR 3831).

Put that in as a last minute floor amendment at oh-dark-thirty, and no one will even know what it means. Just such a last minute floor amendment (to the Firearm Owners Protection Act) resulted in the ban on new production of machine guns for sale to individual citizens. Put that into the Homeland Security budget appropriations or authorization, and it might just pass. If the conference commitee meets soon enough after passage it might slip by that, and by the other house, which would probably be the House.

87 posted on 08/20/2004 5:39:39 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: 45Auto
Real americans don't use m16's to shoot up a city and than blow their heads off.
88 posted on 08/21/2004 1:05:55 AM PDT by John Lenin
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