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Time to part company
myself | 4/1/05 | hchutch

Posted on 04/01/2005 2:39:59 PM PST by hchutch

Six months ago, Free Republic was riding high, and I was proud to be a part of it. It was coming off having blown the cover off of Dan Rather’s use of forged memos against the President. The President was well on his way to winning re-election. It was a great time to be a Freeper.

However, things have changed. It started with the justifiable removal of ALIPAC. I supported that move by Jim Robinson, but the ugliness directed towards Alberto Gonzales. He was accused of everything under the sun, and Senator Mel Martinez was viciously attacked for speaking Spanish on the Senate floor. The tone and outright viciousness (terms like FROBL and traitor were fired off at anyone who did not toe the line established by Michelle Malkin and Tom Tancredo) on immigration threads had concerned me, but I had concluded it was an isolated incident. After ALIPAC was removed from FR, I had hoped the tone there would improve. But it only got worse. I was point-blank called a traitor because my views on immigration differ from those of Michelle Malkin’s groupies. On immigration threads, questioning the questionable is not allowed. One must accept the unacceptable and allow folks to defend the indefensible. Never mind that VDARE, American Renaissance, and other sites are racist or have no problem hanging out with those that are racists (I’m just going to call a spade a spade here).

There were folks who had the long knives out for Senator Rick Santorum, one of the strongest pro-life members of the United States Senate. Why? Because he endorsed Arlen Specter over Pat Toomey. It was stunning to see these long knives out for a conservative. And all it would accomplish would be his replacement by a Democrat. How in the world replacing Rick Santorum with a Democrat would aid conservatism is beyond me, but it was demanded because Santorum endorsed Specter. The long knives were out, and I suppose it was a sign of what was to come.

The whole Terri Schiavo case has changed everything for me. A mob mentality took over the first few days after the order to pull the tube was given. Anyone who did not toe the line was attacked. I saw a dedicated active-duty member of our armed forces called a “Maine liberal” for simply asking why troops in harm’s way did not get the same sort of “all-nighter” attention that Terri Schiavo got. It was a reasonable question – we have 40-year-old P-3s still out there. We have a war on terrorism still going on, in case folks have not noticed. We have to get Social Security fixed. I say this as a person who believes that at best, Michael Schiavo’s relationship with a woman (and having two kids with her) meant he had a conflict of interest – and that he had decided that Terri was inconvenient. I cannot take his word alone that Terri would have wanted this. I also believe that George Felos is a supporter of euthanasia, and that he is using this case for his own ends. Those folks give me the creeps, and I think that Jim Robinson was on the right side of this issue. However, I also got a very bad feeling when the Schindlers embraced the likes of Randall Terry and Bo Gritz. I had to wonder what has happened to the conservative movement when the threads were allowed to spiral so out of control. The concept of euthanasia is repulsive and disgusting, but it does not excuse allowing the threads to spin out of control.

I have seen the President of the United States, George W. Bush, and the Governor of Florida, John Ellis Bush, take huge political risks in an effort to save Terri’s life. I believe they were doing their best to do the right thing, and that the original law passed in 2003 was a reasonable one that was wrongly stuck down by Judge Greer and the Florida Supreme Court. I think that the Republican Party has taken a huge risk to give Terri a chance at life, and I am disgusted with those who seek a pretext that will justify leaving the GOP in the lurch. I’m sick of the way the Terri threads spun out of control, and the vicious attacks launched at reasonable people who came to a different conclusions about the situation or who pointed out facts that certain people found inconvenient. This is not what I signed on here for.

I believe in a strong national defense, cutting taxes, and in general trying to keep government involvement as minimal as possible (there are times when the best one can do is to limit government involvement in a situation). I am pro-life (with exceptions for rape, incest, and to protect the life of the mother) and pro-Second Amendment. However, I do NOT want the federal government to be involved in any culture war. “Culture” was never mentioned in the constitution, thus I believe it is left to the States or TO THE PEOPLE (see the Tenth Amendment). I do NOT think immigration is a problem, but I believe some mistakes were made along the way (like eliminating the bracero program). I also think that the President of the United States has proposed a sensible plan that will go a long way towards solving the problems on our border with Mexico and do much to alleviate the problems surrounding illegal immigration. Therefore, I have come to the conclusion that it is time for me and Free Republic to part company, because Free Republic has left this limited-government neoconservative. In the process of Free Republic leaving me, I now find that I fear the social conservatives as much as I fear the loony left. As a result of coming to this conclusion, I ask that my account be deleted and all posts I have made, save for this opus and the ping to my friends be removed.

I do this with regret, since I will miss some of those who I have met here, but I feel no other choice. So long.


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To: Poohbah
In some cases, more akin to "especially if they like not getting shot."

Well, I didn't want to go that far, Pooh. I know that a lot here already think I'm a trigger-happy brother.


221 posted on 04/01/2005 3:33:58 PM PST by rdb3 (To the world, you're one person. To one person, you may be the world.)
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To: hchutch

I hear you brother.


PAX


222 posted on 04/01/2005 3:33:59 PM PST by Selkie ("There is nothing more galling to angry people than the coolness of those on whom they wish to vent)
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To: johnb838

Oh, my. It's posts like yours that are driving good freepers away. Such an immature response is unfortunate and such undignified language.


223 posted on 04/01/2005 3:34:06 PM PST by Peach
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To: Dan from Michigan
I hate those things.....

They're beautiful from a distance, but MESSY!!!

224 posted on 04/01/2005 3:34:20 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Pajama Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: Tempest
YOU are one of the nutty fanatics on this board, you and every other bridge burning, pitchfork toting get Bush because he doesn't tow every single conservative line idiot!

Instead of throwing names around, why don't you debate your points versus someone else's points? You have just made yourself a bystander in the debate forum since you threw away any form of credibility that you may have earned.
225 posted on 04/01/2005 3:34:48 PM PST by politicket
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear
Obligatory post reminding everyone that The Hobbit Hole did it first. Oh, and The Neverending Story, too.

Duly noted! :-)

226 posted on 04/01/2005 3:35:10 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Pajama Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

Dat Mon Beel.....but I never actually posted as such...registered way back...but never posted.

Check it out....the names on my jacket too.


227 posted on 04/01/2005 3:35:20 PM PST by Dat Mon (will work for clever tagline)
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To: Senator Pardek

Slacker.


228 posted on 04/01/2005 3:35:26 PM PST by nunya bidness
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To: peyton randolph

LOL!


229 posted on 04/01/2005 3:35:53 PM PST by AlbionGirl
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To: Rebelbase

see post #220.


230 posted on 04/01/2005 3:35:54 PM PST by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: hchutch


I completely understand.
You'll be sorely missed.


231 posted on 04/01/2005 3:36:09 PM PST by onyx (Robert Frost "Good fences make good neighbors." Build the fence, Mr. President and Congress.)
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To: hchutch; sinkspur
Well, I, for one, will miss you. And I agree with most of what you've said above.

But leaving here is like leaving the Republican party. Why on earth would you simply walk away and not continue to post common sense here?

I agree with most of what you say too, but we need to stay, or the Republican Party is going to be marginalized right out of power.

SO9

232 posted on 04/01/2005 3:36:41 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: rdb3
Well, I didn't want to go that far, Pooh. I know that a lot here already think I'm a trigger-happy brother.

You aren't wired that way--but there are a lot of folks out in the world who are. Look at how many shootings there are where the motive boils down to "He dissed me."

Like I said, some of the lines I've seen thrown around with onanistic glee are the sort of thing that a wise person doesn't utter to someone who's carrying, particularly if he doesn't know the person very well.

233 posted on 04/01/2005 3:36:53 PM PST by Poohbah (I'm in the WPPFF)
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To: Dat Mon

I'm just trying to remember if I met you... No need to get snippy :)

I still don't believe anyone lurked here since 1998, without posting, expecially with the elections, impeachment, 911 etc...

I don't think it's possible.


234 posted on 04/01/2005 3:37:13 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Sure you can trust the government... just ask an Indian...)
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To: hchutch
Nothing more needs to be said.

Discussion is a continuation of war by other means.
-Clausewitz

235 posted on 04/01/2005 3:37:24 PM PST by RightWhale (50 trillion sovereign cells working together in relative harmony)
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To: hchutch

This is a damn shame.


236 posted on 04/01/2005 3:38:02 PM PST by mabelkitty (Blackwell for Governor in 2006!!!)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

Ahhh...brohamie. Ya made me shmile. Yuh so uniquely creative.


237 posted on 04/01/2005 3:38:21 PM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: SandyInSeattle
They're beautiful from a distance, but MESSY!!!

I used to live in an apartment complex that had a recirculating creek thing running through the complex. The geese loved it, but you couldn't walk on the grass in your bare feet. I finally fully understood what "crap through a goose" really means. LOL.

I was feeding the babies once, and ran out of bread. I went back in to get some more. The babies followed me in. I had to carry them out, quickly, before they made my apartment like the yard outside! Amazingly, the parents didn't care at all when I scooped them up and put them outside.

238 posted on 04/01/2005 3:38:23 PM PST by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: rdb3

I'm stuned by your post. It was Hugh.

see post #220


239 posted on 04/01/2005 3:38:40 PM PST by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: politicket
Instead of throwing names around
Hey-- "throwing names around" is now permitted at FR. It is A-OK to do it.
240 posted on 04/01/2005 3:38:51 PM PST by Clara Lou (I'm not pro-death, I'm anti-hysteria.)
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