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Bank of America insists it can't find slave profits in its past
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | April 30,2005 | FRAN SPIELMAN

Posted on 04/30/2005 5:21:01 AM PDT by Founding Father

Bank of America insists it can't find slave profits in its past

April 30, 2005

BY FRAN SPIELMAN City Hall Reporter

Under fire from the City Council's champion for slave reparations, Bank of America stuck to its guns Friday: The bank has hired a researcher to dig deeper but has so far has uncovered no evidence that a predecessor bank invested in or profited from the slave trade.

To the contrary, Bank of America said its research suggests that the predecessor, Providence Bank, "distanced itself from and declined to support slavery-related activities." That's even though John Brown -- Providence Bank's founding president, director and shareholder -- was a well-known slave owner who arranged for the transportation of slaves.

Founded in 1791, Providence Bank is a predecessor of Fleet Boston, which was acquired by Bank of America last year.

"First, the research disclosed no evidence establishing that the Providence Bank had investments or profits from slavery. Second, there is no indication of the source of the funds used by Brown to purchase his 23 shares in the bank. Last, the evidence suggests that the bank, in fact, avoided slave-related activities of John Brown or any other bank customer," said the bank's attorney V. Duncan Johnson.

'We won't stop'

Ald. Dorothy Tillman (3rd) accused "arrogant" bank officials of providing "selective and fraudulent" information to a joint City Council committee.

Tillman said research conducted by her daughter at some of the same places Bank of America looked -- the Rhode Island Historical Society and Brown University Library -- has already produced evidence that Providence Bank made loans used to purchase ships that transported slaves.

"The whole reason the bank was founded was so that the merchants could have a bank for their money to go through. Their whole existence was slavery. They had no other existence," she said.

"They thought they could bring this lawyer in and lie and just say, 'Moses Brown [John's brother] was an abolitionist. You see, they were good guys.' The lawyer's job was to protect Bank of America -- not to get to the truth. And we won't stop until we get to the truth."

Finance Committee Chairman Edward M. Burke (14th) cautioned Tillman not to "toss around the words 'fraud' and 'misrepresentation.' "

"It is the opinion of the chair that there has been no fraudulent conduct on the part of these witnesses," he said.

Black, Jewish aldermen clash

Ald. Burton F. Natarus (42nd) also urged Tillman to take a deep breath -- prompting an uncomfortable clash between black and Jewish aldermen.

"Prior to the Civil War, you're going to find almost every one of these corporations were involved with the institution of slavery. You're going to find it, and no matter what you do, you can't hide it. But the problem is, how long are you going to badger them with it?" Natarus said.

That infuriated Tillman, who reminded Natarus that African-American aldermen had supported him in the threat to punish Swiss banks that ultimately resulted in the return to Holocaust victims of hundreds of millions of dollars in gold looted by conquering German armies.

"The Jewish community -- your community -- received reparations. What happened to them was wrong. And you were relentless in making sure that anybody and everybody who had anything to do with the Holocaust would be brought to justice . . . What we're saying is, we have a right to be repaid," Tillman said.

Ald. William Beavers (7th) added, "You want to know how long it's going to go on? It's going to go on as long as the Holocaust. The Holocaust is never going to end, and this is never going to end. So when we support you, you support us."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bankofamerica; boa; getoveritalready; providencebank; racepimp; racists; reparations; slavert; slavery; slavestates
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
VR,

I never disputed the fact that black solders died. I know they did. Let's look at your numbers. If 10 percent of the Union forces were black at 179,000 then there were approximately 1.79 million union troops. If 40,000 black soldiers died then it might be possible that (by the numbers) 400,000 white troops died. Not to mention wounded and disfigured.

What I wanted to point out is that the overwhelming amount of deaths were white. As far a reparations go it is my humble opinion that this debt has been paid.

v/r
41 posted on 04/30/2005 7:57:06 AM PDT by PJammers (I can't help it... It's my idiom!)
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To: muawiyah

Sick.


42 posted on 04/30/2005 8:23:02 AM PDT by Gondring (Pretend you don't know me...I'm in the WPPFF.)
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To: muawiyah

Forgot to add that Yankees didn't know what a pretty woman looked like until they went South. Ask anyone.


43 posted on 04/30/2005 8:27:00 AM PDT by Redgirl (I actually voted for John Kerry before I voted against him.)
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To: muawiyah

Check for us, please.

A vast majority were White and the debt (if there ever was one) has been paid for a long, long time.


44 posted on 04/30/2005 8:29:43 AM PDT by Gunrunner2
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To: Redgirl
That is true even today (*ducking and running* you know how those Yankee women can be!)
45 posted on 04/30/2005 8:34:49 AM PDT by Gunrunner2
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To: Founding Father

I've really got to keep my eye out for a good set of encyclopedias from 1963. The rewriting of history continues unabated.


46 posted on 04/30/2005 8:38:24 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (If you must filibuster, let the Constitution do the talkin')
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To: Founding Father
Bank of America insists it can't find slave profits in its past

Well, someone is just going to have to look a little harder now aren't they??!!

47 posted on 04/30/2005 8:39:25 AM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: Gondring

Approximately 350,000 Federal deaths (both battle deaths and disease). Of that, over 310,000 where of European ancestry. Many, as my g-g-uncle did, volunteered and left a family fatherless and destitute. The debt has been paid many times over in blood. His tombstone reads “ ----- gave his life that the black man may be free” How many of those brave young men that gave their lives and their future families are every even acknowledged by the so called black leaders of today. What a croc.


48 posted on 04/30/2005 8:40:58 AM PDT by beagle9
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To: PJammers
Sadly, the people who survived the hardships of ship internment and became slaves in the Americas, gave birth to progeny that lived longer and better than their African cousins. The peers of the American slave population, back in Africa, were either slaughtered when unable to be sold or ended up as African/Arab slaves; an existence that was nasty, brutish and short.

The children of those left back in Africa, if they survived at all, have begotten a generation of oppressed, poverty stricken and malnourished third world victims of tribal warfare. One could make a more sound argument that the progeny of American slaves owe a big acclamation of thanks to the forces that brought their ancestors to these shores. In short, they "owe" someone for their good fortune.

49 posted on 04/30/2005 8:55:26 AM PDT by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent...)
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To: Founding Father

maybe there wasn't any?????


50 posted on 04/30/2005 8:56:32 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: samtheman
Hey, whole big bunches of us have all sorts of American ancestors who were both victimized and victims. Just to make sure I'm covered I took my wallet from the right pocket and put it in the left.

All the rest of what some folks have planned is just pure BS.

51 posted on 04/30/2005 9:29:56 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: PJammers
Well, fact is most all of the Union Army was raised in Ohio, Indiana and Illinois. They'd been having a dramatic economic depression there for nearly a decade.

They volunteered to shoot Rebels, not get hurt!

52 posted on 04/30/2005 9:32:32 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Redgirl
Who said "raped"? Customs were different in that day and men much more restrained. After all, there was no cure for any of the better known STDs.

New Yorkers probably threw all care to the wind, but folks from the American Midwest had farms to take care of and injury to their reproductive capacity brought about by an indiscrete daliance meant economic disaster!

It is an error to project current beliefs and standards back on earlier generations who had different problems.

53 posted on 04/30/2005 9:35:23 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Gondring

You really don't know how to read do you? I'd suggest you click back to the post to which I responded.


54 posted on 04/30/2005 9:36:33 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Redgirl

Well, that could be ~ they'd been out there in the swamps and woods for quite some time, and their Northern ladies (unlike their Southern cousins) were ploughing the fields themselves.


55 posted on 04/30/2005 9:37:24 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: canalabamian

Bank of America is headquartered in North Carolina.


56 posted on 04/30/2005 9:48:46 AM PDT by sharktrager (The masses will trade liberty for a more quiet life.)
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To: Founding Father

Reparations is a very important issue, so vital I think Democrats should make this the cornerstone of their thrust to retake the White House. And why is it still called the "White" House?


57 posted on 04/30/2005 9:54:31 AM PDT by kcar (The UNsucks.com)
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To: fhayek

I hope you just forgot your sarcasm tag.


58 posted on 04/30/2005 9:55:43 AM PDT by sharktrager (The masses will trade liberty for a more quiet life.)
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To: muawiyah

Not only do I know how to read...I know how to read both the lines and between them.

Yours are sick, through and through, intentionally or as evidence of ignorance. Take your pick--I'll not insult you by assuming.


59 posted on 04/30/2005 10:02:51 AM PDT by Gondring (Pretend you don't know me...I'm in the WPPFF.)
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To: muawiyah

Well, You are WRONG. And I might add that many of the Union Soldiers who did the fighting, would disagree.
People like Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain of the 20th Maine, Or Ulysses Simpson Grant, or George Meade, just to name a few.


60 posted on 04/30/2005 10:11:11 AM PDT by TexConfederate1861 (Sic Semper Tyrannis!)
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