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I was wrong; so please join me in supporting Harriet Miers.

Posted on 10/09/2005 3:28:25 PM PDT by Pukin Dog

I decided to end my self-imposed exile from posting due to information that I received this past weekend from ‘a little birdie’ in Washington, which I subsequently had confirmed by another ‘insider’ if you can call him that.

You know I won’t tell, so don’t bother asking me for names, links, or further information. I trust these individuals, and have received accurate information from them before and shared it here on Free Republic. Of course, all are free to either accept or reject what I am about to share, but if you know anything about the Dog, I don’t change my mind often, and my only goal is to pass on information that can help support the Conservative agenda.

Issue 1.

Information was shared with me on Saturday, which described in no uncertain terms that Harriet Miers stands as the only nominee on Bush’s list which has any chance of confirmation by the Senate Judiciary Committee. The reasons for this are numerous, and would be embarrassing to the Conservative movement should one or many of the ‘stars’ who we hoped Bush would select be shot down in Committee, which again, if true, would be a certainty.

More than one of the persons we might have wanted made it clear to the President that they would not accept his nomination if selected. You can draw your own conclusions as to why, but the only hint I will provide is that data mining works too damn well these days. What we saw back when Clarence Thomas was nominated would seem like a walk in the park, compared to what would be done to some of our most popular jurists.

Our Democrat opponents have been quite busy, especially after John Roberts embarrassed them, searching for any information that would allow an open personal attack on a nominee. Sadly, many of the folks we wanted badly would have had their lives destroyed had they attempted confirmation to the bench, and wisely declined. There is no one among us who has not done (or had a family member do) things that we either regret, or would rather keep to ourselves. Because none of us are perfect, it is possible that had one of our choices been selected, we might have lived to regret that day for a very long time.

Issue 2.

Arlen Specter is in my opinion, a traitor to the Conservative movement. He has made it clear to the White House that he is determined to protect his legacy, by NOT supporting any name among those who might make it possible to overturn Rowe V. Wade. What that means, is that had Bush put up someone who might make us proud, Specter reneged on a PROMISE to support Bush’s judicial nominees in return for his, (and especially Rick Santorum’s) support for his re-election. This promise was made when there was strong consideration for removing Specter’s pending chairmanship in favor of John Coryn, or an extension to the term of Orrin Hatch.

The removal of Specter from the Chairmanship would have been disastrous, because he would have remained a committee member, and would have sided with Democrats against the President’s selections out of spite. So, why not simply remove Specter from the committee? That would have been really bad PR, considering Specter’s health issues at the time these decisions were being made.

One could argue that it might have been best to send up nominee after nominee, even if eventually defeated, but remember that O’Conner is only around hoping for a quick confirmation so that she can be with her ill husband. Bush was under the gun to come up with a confirmable candidate, or risk a Supreme Court not running at full strength as important rulings came under review.

I am told that Arlen Specter has gone back on every single promise he made when his chairmanship was still a question, and feels untouchable now that he is ill, because any punitive measures taken against him would be seen as ‘less than compassionate’ by the MSM and Democrats, who admittedly would have a field day, were Specter punished for his duplicity. The sad thing is that after “Scottish Law” or even the “Magic Bullet theory” that some think that anything that Arlen Specter says can be trusted. Sure, he supported Clarence Thomas, but does anyone believe that Specter would still be a Senator if he had not?

Issue 3.

Let’s face it; our Republican Senate is an embarrassment. From the weakness of Frist, to the petulance of the dude who ‘thinks he is leader’ McCain, down to his McCainiac compadre Lindsey (tinker-bell) Graham, to the nut from Mississippi who thinks he can actually get his leadership position back by actively rebelling against the President, we aint looking to good at all.

Our Republican Senate has as members at least 7 Democrats who could have never gotten elected as Democrats, who nonetheless support the Democrat agenda whenever they can get away with it, which unfortunately due to the weakness of Frist, is all too often. I find myself wishing Tom Delay would run for the Senate against Hutchinson, just so we can have someone in the Senate not afraid to break some heads to get things done. Why can’t we have a Republican Lyndon Johnson when we need one?

Because our Republican Senate is so weak, President Bush cannot rely on them for much. He could not have gotten majority support in this current Senate for any judicial nominee that would have made us proud. The usual suspects have made it clear to the President that any nominee who would have put their re-election prospects at risk would vote against that nominee. The bottom line, is that the Republican Senate is made up of too many who want the job, but not the work. The only job they see before them is that of getting re-elected to another six year term.

Luttig, McConnell, JRB, Owen, Alito, or anyone else you want to name, would have been defeated, and probably defeated in committee, in order to save other Senators from having to vote them down on the floor. Of this, I am now convinced. Only two names were considered allowable for Senate confirmation; Miers and Gonzales. When Bush met with Senators, he was reportedly told that these two names were the only ones that stood a chance to be confirmed, but Gonzales would face pointed questions about Abu Gharab, Gitmo, and the administration’s policy on torture. It would have been ugly, but he would have been confirmed against the added damage done by dejected a dejected conservative base, and liberal attacks on the President’s agenda. There would have also had to be a new search for an Attorney General, which would have been just as ugly.

Had Bush put up selections that would have been defeated, the chorus of ‘Lame Duck’ chanting coming out of Washington would have drowned out the President’s agenda. A defeat in the Senate would have also signaled to Congress that they were on their own, and no longer had to back up, support, or even listen to President Bush. They would have been free to play the political-calculation game that the Democrats have been playing for 6 years; avoiding tough votes that would be used against them in a future campaign.

So, what’s the bottom line?

The bottom line is that Bush did his best to give us what we want, in a way that will not hurt the prospects of the Conservative agenda. The primary thing that must be considered, is that the Congress can NEVER be put back in Democrat hands, for that would destroy all progress made up to now. Our day will come, but this aint it. If we had a Republican Senate made up of real patriots without the odd liberal in Republican clothing, things would be a lot better.

In Miers, Bush has clearly taken what he can get, and our best hope now is for another vacancy on the court before this administration’s term is up. The current makeup of the Congress will just not allow our agenda to be passed at this time without major sacrifices and pragmatic thinking to overcome the inherit weakness of having traitors in our midst.

It appears to me that Harriet Miers is the best CONFIRMABLE candidate for the Supreme Court at this time. This fact is not the fault of the President. Indeed it is OUR fault. It is us who have supported less than the best candidates for the Senate. We are responsible for Chaffee, Snowe, McCain, Graham, Lott, Frist and other persons of questionable courage. We should not be blaming Bush for our own votes. We selected the people that the President must rely upon to move his agenda forward. If they are losers, then he loses too.

Though they literally suck, we are stuck with these people because we must keep the majority to keep our agenda alive. There have been worse moments for us, but none would be worse than than the day we lose the Senate our House majorities. I now believe that although Bush disapointed many of us, that he did the very best he could do without destroying our momentum.

Yes, like Rush Limbaugh said, it was a choice made from weakness.

But the thing to remember, is that it was not Bush’s weakness, but our own, and that of the people we have elected to Congress that made this happen. Had they been strong, Bush could have selected anyone we wanted.

Because of what I now know about how and why Harriet Miers was selected, I withdraw my earlier statements against her, my statements suggesting anything less than my strong support of the President, and finally, my self imposed exile from Free Republic.

Pukin Dog is back, so deal with it.


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To: Pukin Dog

I'd always known our misrepresentatives didn't have the cojones to get any of the others through. How many times did Frist say "we're getting close to the nuclear option" during the filibuster? There was no hope they'd ever do it then, and even less now that they let it slide.

When we congratulate ourselves for recruiting social liberals into the Republican fold, think about how weak the party has become as a result. Total wimps afraid of a few words. WORDS!!


61 posted on 10/09/2005 3:47:38 PM PDT by AmericanChef
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To: Wolfgang_Blitzkrieg
Right now, we just need somebody confirmed in what is really a Democratic Senate.
62 posted on 10/09/2005 3:47:52 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog

I can't say this makes me feel any better.

I notice you don't say that "we" are responsible for Arlen Specter being in the Senate. No, that was personally engineered by Rove and Bush. Many of us strongly objected at the time. I also pointed out that as time passed, Specter would be less and less accountable to anyone but himself, and that the one to suffer would be Bush. Hell, Bush not only twisted arms to get Specter re-elected, but he probably wrecked Rick Santorum's re-election prospects in the process.

There are ways to make RINOs toe the line, and they don't depend entirely on the Republican leadership in the Senate. How many bills has Bush vetoed? How often has he disciplined dissenting RINOs by taking away their pork? How often has he punished his enemies when they got out of line? No wonder he can't control the party.


63 posted on 10/09/2005 3:48:18 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Pukin Dog
"The primary thing that must be considered, is that the Congress can NEVER be put back in Democrat hands, for that would destroy all progress made up to now."

Ditto for the presidency.

The DemocRAT party gets most of its campaign contributions from those who hate America and all we stand for. When the RATS are able to get elected, they must come through for their base.

They know that the vast majority of the American people will reject leftist ideas at the ballot box, so the only way they can "come through" for their base and get the anti-American left's agenda enacted into law, is to install as many left-wing activist judges as possible. They must do an end-run around the constitutional legislative process, rule against the will of the people and impose that agenda on us.

The fact that they get most of their funding from the leftist extremist blame-America-first crowd - our avowed enemies - is THE reason why we must never allow DemocRATS to obtain political power either locally, statewide, or at the federal level. They never give up in their efforts to undermine our Constitution because they have to.

The Constitution stands in their way. bttt

12 posted on 10/09/2005 12:39:55 PM EDT by Matchett-PI

64 posted on 10/09/2005 3:48:28 PM PDT by Matchett-PI ( "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." -- Dwight Eisenhower)
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To: Pukin Dog

" I just wish this issue had less to do with me"

Strange way of trying to accomplish that.


65 posted on 10/09/2005 3:48:48 PM PDT by flashbunny (Sorry, but I'm allergic to KoolAid.)
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To: Pukin Dog
he did the very best he could do without destroying our momentum.

What momentum? We've spent the past 25 years fighting to get control of both the White House and the Congress at the same time so we could put in justices that wouldn't legislate from the bench, and now Bush acts like we are in the minority.

I guarantee you if the dems were in the same position of power that we are, the head of NARAL would have been their nominee.

66 posted on 10/09/2005 3:49:14 PM PDT by phil1750 (Love like you've never been hurt;Dance like nobody's watching;PRAY like it's your last prayer)
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To: Torie
The players are interesting, the maneuvering is interesting, the suspense is interesting, the chess game is interesting.

I agree if you strike the word "interesting" in every instance and substitute therefor the word "sickening."

67 posted on 10/09/2005 3:49:31 PM PDT by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Pukin Dog
Not sure what kind of inside information you have but....

Our Democrat opponents have been quite busy, especially after John Roberts embarrassed them, searching for any information that would allow an open personal attack on a nominee. Sadly, many of the folks we wanted badly would have had their lives destroyed had they attempted confirmation to the bench, and wisely declined.

I wondered if this might be contributing to it. After the way they went after the Roberts family you can bet on the nominees families dirty laundry being spread out in public.

Miers has one big advantage over most other nominees. No family to be affected.

I still am waiting for the hearings to decide about her.

But one thing is clear, this attacking of nominees and their families has got to stop or no one will want to serve.

68 posted on 10/09/2005 3:49:36 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Warning: Not a Romantic or hero worshiper. Attempts to tug at my heartstrings annoy me... and I bite)
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To: flashbunny
You seriously need to get a life and quit trying to be everyones worst enemy. I have not read ONE of your posts this last week that had any worth.

Let's hear some insightful comment from you instead of your current drivel.
69 posted on 10/09/2005 3:49:40 PM PDT by politicket (Our Supreme Court just destroyed our land...any Patrick Henry's out there?)
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To: Cicero
You are right, but Bush and Rove were lied to. I agree that Santorum is probably going to lose, but they had assurances from Specter that he would play ball. He lied.
70 posted on 10/09/2005 3:49:56 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog
"Because of what I now know about how and why Harriet Miers was selected, I withdraw my earlier statements against her, my statements suggesting anything less than my strong support of the President, and finally, my self imposed exile from Free Republic."

It takes a good dog to change directions based on new information. Thanks for your honesty and your willingness to share your information and opinion.

A note to those who choose to criticize the PD, if you are so knowledgeable and have a valid, to you, opinion of the nomination please share with the rest of us. If all you have to share is criticism don't waste our time.
71 posted on 10/09/2005 3:50:00 PM PDT by pepperdog
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To: All

Apparently this guy is a famous Freeper. I have never heard of him, but that does not matter.

I would like to direct attention to an obscure portion of his text -- the issue that the FR rockstar favorites might not survive the vetting process.

Recall that there are many ways to fail a USSC vetting that might not appear in the screen for a lower office:

I'll name a few off the top of my head, though all these did not appear for USSC candidates.

1) Nanny tax issues. Anyone who ever paid a maid or even biweekly housekeeper with cash could run afoul of this. It would be a killer.

2) Smoked pot as a youngster. Another killer.

3) A felon in the family. Depends on how remote, of course, but any leniency shown by the judge of that family member's case would be trumpeted -- and might very well evolve into another killer.

You can add to this list as you will, but I would like folks to consider one fundamental reality in this:

Bush can't, in any decency as a human being, tell you this happened. The rockstar in question would be exposed and devastated. Explaining things to some political junkies doesn't qualify as sufficient justification to ruin someone's life.


72 posted on 10/09/2005 3:50:32 PM PDT by Owen
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To: Pukin Dog

Thanks for the info.

The reasons you listed are the reasons I'll not be voting for no-b@lls republicans any more.

They are unfit to govern.


73 posted on 10/09/2005 3:50:40 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: flashbunny

I know you aren't talking to me, but seriously, enough already. We get it.


74 posted on 10/09/2005 3:50:42 PM PDT by conservativebabe (proud to be a vitriolic hyperconservative)
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To: Larry Lucido

LOL.


75 posted on 10/09/2005 3:50:49 PM PDT by flashbunny (Sorry, but I'm allergic to KoolAid.)
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To: Pukin Dog
Well, I appreciate the post. Seems like the media is willing to leave us in the dark to snipe at one another one this one. They're content to sit back and watch us eat our own since we really don't have much to go on. That's just what most of us are doing it seems.

Figures the only place I'd get info would be FR...

76 posted on 10/09/2005 3:50:53 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Larry Lucido

Made my day.


77 posted on 10/09/2005 3:51:04 PM PDT by Swampmarine
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To: Pukin Dog
Thomas Sowell came to the same conclusion.
Interesting. It's the only logical reason to explain Bush's actions. All his other picks for judges were stellar. Bush is between a rock and a hard pace and the Dems are eating this up. Everyone, myself included, needs to calm down.
78 posted on 10/09/2005 3:51:17 PM PDT by CaptainK
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To: kidd
Thus Owens would be confirmable.

Owens asked that her name be withdrawn.

79 posted on 10/09/2005 3:51:41 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Warning: Not a Romantic or hero worshiper. Attempts to tug at my heartstrings annoy me... and I bite)
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To: phil1750
At this point, you could call momentum only that we have been able to keep Democrats from power for quite some time now. I'll take that, in addition to tax cuts anytime.
80 posted on 10/09/2005 3:51:42 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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