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Chertoff promotes "Guest Worker Program"
The Brownsville Herald ^ | Posted on Mar 04 06 | SARA INÉS CALDERÓN

Posted on 03/04/2006 1:04:23 PM PST by Icelander

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To: the Marshal

"Don't jump threads - If you get involved in an argument in one thread, it's considered poor manners to restart the previous argument in the middle of an unrelated thread."


41 posted on 03/04/2006 3:11:24 PM PST by Conservative til I die
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To: Icelander

These republican "leaders" had better come to terms with a few facts.
We do't like this crap. Just for the sake of cheap labour.
Keep all these folks out.
Too damn many here already.
If the dems grab the issue and run with it they will kick the republicans asses in the coming elections.


42 posted on 03/04/2006 3:12:18 PM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: umgud

We already have a guest worker program. It is called a work visa, I believe. Our friend from India has a visa and has been trying to get citizenship for years. In the meantime, he owns a very expensive townhouse, two cars, PAYS TAXES and has insurance. Why do I get the feeling that the guest workers from south of the border will not do any of this. Yet I'm sure they will be granted amnesty for their hard work ethic as a reward for holding their card for 3 years of continuous work in our country. I doubt they will contribute as much as our friend as he makes 6 figures, and of course, has been trying legally to get citizenship for 7 years.


43 posted on 03/04/2006 3:15:44 PM PST by WV Mountain Mama (I don't need to visualize whirled peas. I'm a mom, I've SEEN them.)
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To: A. Pole
bump thanks.

Money talks, security walks. Investors making money trumps the WOT in this administration.

44 posted on 03/04/2006 3:17:31 PM PST by ex-snook (God of the Universe, God of Creation, God of Love, thank you for life.)
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To: the Marshal
Seems like you found a buddy in STD - ask him about the Dagon fish hat wearing guy you call the Holy Father. What a boob you are.

Shoulda behaved. Now you're gone.
45 posted on 03/04/2006 3:20:51 PM PST by Conservative til I die
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To: ex-snook

Do you know what the word "chert"/"chort" stands for? Devil.


46 posted on 03/04/2006 3:23:28 PM PST by A. Pole (Hush Bimbo: "Low wage is good for you!")
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To: puppypusher
we Don't need a guest workers program

& just how do you propose to harvest the citrus, avocados, etc. w/o them ?

47 posted on 03/04/2006 3:36:36 PM PST by TheOracleAtLilac
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To: TXBSAFH

Yep, hand in hand.


48 posted on 03/04/2006 3:38:40 PM PST by moehoward
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To: TheOracleAtLilac
& just how do you propose to harvest the citrus, avocados, etc. w/o them ?

Read my tagline

49 posted on 03/04/2006 3:50:51 PM PST by A. Pole (If the lettuce cutters were paid $10 more per hour, the lettuce head would cost FIVE CENTS more.)
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To: A. Pole
doesn't directly address the topic.

Are braceros needed or not ?

50 posted on 03/04/2006 3:56:21 PM PST by TheOracleAtLilac
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To: TheOracleAtLilac
[tagline] doesn't directly address the topic. Are braceros needed or not ?

Directly not, but indirectly yes. Think harder.

51 posted on 03/04/2006 3:59:34 PM PST by A. Pole (If the lettuce cutters were paid $10 more per hour, the lettuce head would cost FIVE CENTS more.)
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To: EternalVigilance
More proof that Chertoff is on the way out the door.

A "You're doing a great job, Cherty" moment heading his way. Update your resume! Blackbird.

52 posted on 03/04/2006 3:59:40 PM PST by BlackbirdSST (Diapers, like Politicians, need regular changing for the same reason!)
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To: WV Mountain Mama
Sounds like your friend has a permenant visa/greencard, with which he can pursue citizenship.

As for the illegals, we are talking about temporary visas, that don't allow the holder to apply for citizenship.

There has been an H2A temporary ag worker visa for quite some time. It is a seasonal work visa. I don't recall the exact quota, except it is over 200,000. The quota is irrelevant because the regulations are book length and nobody can conform, except the largest employers. Also, the quota nowhere approaches the number of ag workers needed, nor does it provide any ag workers to work longer than seasonal.

There is also an H2B temporary non-ag worker visa, which is also seasonal. This is for jobs such as leaf blowers and waitstaff. The quota has been at 66,000 for a long time, but was temporarily increased to 96,000 this past year and will revert back to 66,000 in Sept, unless it is renewed at 96,000. The regulations on this visa are not as difficult but once again, the quota is rediculous and it is for seasonal workers only.

No doubt, when theae temp visas were put in place, they were adequate. But they did not evolve with the needs of larger numbers and longer intervals. Consequently, the illegals come in to satisfy those needs.

When Bush and others say that the guest worker is broken and needs to be fixed/reformed, this is what he is talking about. There is a need for a much larger number of temp guest workers and and the interval that they stay needs to be longer. They don't need to have a permenant visa/greencard or become citizens.

53 posted on 03/04/2006 4:05:06 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: A. Pole
I'll think harder if you read better.

I was talking fruit, not field crop.

FWIW, grove owners in my area are losing $ on citrus (& have been for years)

& is your documentation for a $10 ^ in lettuce pickers' wages based in fact/analysis or from the Vaseline jar ?

54 posted on 03/04/2006 4:06:36 PM PST by TheOracleAtLilac
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To: TheOracleAtLilac
& just how do you propose to harvest the citrus, avocados, etc. w/o them ?

How about mechanizing? I'm sure a country that can build functioning robots which work well on other planets is perfectly capable of designing machines that can pick fruits and vegetables.

55 posted on 03/04/2006 4:07:11 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: TheOracleAtLilac
& just how do you propose to harvest the citrus, avocados, etc. w/o them ?

Prisoners, welfare recipients, legal aliens, Americans (payed a living wage w/benefits).

56 posted on 03/04/2006 4:07:55 PM PST by SealSeven (Moving at the speed of dark.... Even "nothing" takes up space.)
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To: TheOracleAtLilac

Harvest them with machines. Anything a human can do a machine can do as well if not better if it's designed right. There are many fruits and vegtables that are harvested by machines. So there is no excuse to not use them.


57 posted on 03/04/2006 4:09:11 PM PST by puppypusher
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

& what do we do till those robots are developed/perfected ?


58 posted on 03/04/2006 4:11:27 PM PST by TheOracleAtLilac
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& what do we do till those robots are developed/perfected ?

See post #56, sounds like a good idea to me.

59 posted on 03/04/2006 4:12:57 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: SealSeven
looks good on paper.

I think you're SOL on prisoners cuz of the nature of the work

Welfare recipients are out via court rulings.

Legal aliens are above agriculture

Leaving..........?

60 posted on 03/04/2006 4:15:26 PM PST by TheOracleAtLilac
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