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Saddam Regime Document Dated 2001 Shows Chemical Platoon Still Exists And Active (Translation)
Pentagon/FMSO website about Iraqi Pre-War Document ^ | March 25 2006 | jveritas

Posted on 03/25/2006 11:28:53 AM PST by jveritas

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To: jveritas

Thanks! Keeps us updated!

This needs to be posted in Google and Usenet for the libs to swollow!

http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalNewsGroups-PC.html


81 posted on 03/25/2006 1:05:14 PM PST by MaineVoter2002 (http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalLinks.html)
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To: justa-hairyape
Striking the two chosen targets during this period by using two thirds of available special equipment (Ricin Gas)

I don't think I was aware of their use of Ricin....

And you say this document is a 2001 document....?close to a smoking gun...if it is....

82 posted on 03/25/2006 1:10:43 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Strategerist; jveritas; eyespysomething
I realize people desperately want to believe otherwise but reality has to be faced on this one. No particularly interesting smoking gun here.

None of these single documents has been a "particularly interesting smoking gun here." But thanks to jveritas and the Ray Robison blog, who together are translating these documents before the MSM, we're putting pieces of a puzzle together.

Your point that this could be a defensive Chemical Platoon is valid and probably not a point everyone would have immediately picked up on.

But let's not insult the people who are doing the work (translating the documents) that most of us can't do by whining because they haven't given us a "smoking gun."

83 posted on 03/25/2006 1:10:54 PM PST by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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To: MaineVoter2002

Let's keep our translator busy doing the job that only he can do,....the translation....it's a BIG JOB!


84 posted on 03/25/2006 1:15:56 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: SittinYonder; Strategerist; eyespysomething; Ernest_at_the_Beach; All
Document Dated February/3/2003: Chemical Gears for The Chemical Group (Translation)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1603039/posts

I think it is much more than a defensive Chemical Platoon.

85 posted on 03/25/2006 1:16:43 PM PST by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The excerpt I posted was from the Iran/Iraq war. Just shows their capabilities, methods and general experience with Biological and Chemical WMD at that time. The document that started this thread was made in 2001. I posted the Iran/Iraq info for informational purposes to aid this discussion.


86 posted on 03/25/2006 1:17:25 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: jveritas

Those guys who wrote these documents sure didn't miss a thing did they?


87 posted on 03/25/2006 1:18:09 PM PST by WhiteGuy ("Every Generation needs a new revolution" - Jefferson)
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To: MaineVoter2002; jveritas

If you frequent that site, why not post a link back to the threads here on FreeRepublic.....would be more efficient than asking jveritas to do it....if that is what you meant!


88 posted on 03/25/2006 1:19:15 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: jveritas; eyespysomething

Thanks again for your hard work!

Eyespysomething, may I please be added to your PING list?

The picture on the puzzle is slowly emerging.


89 posted on 03/25/2006 1:21:16 PM PST by Shelayne
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To: jveritas

I agree, see my comments on the other thread.....


90 posted on 03/25/2006 1:30:41 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

i looked on the army web site and it wasn't clear to me exactly how this document was obtained.
if the freeper doing the translation doesn't want to answer, or doesn't have time to answer, that's not a problem with me.
do you know how and from whom the army obtained the document?
some people seem to assume that the document constitutes proof that the iraqis had chemical weapons in 2001, but it is not clear to me that it does.
before claiming that it constitutes proof, questions about the document itself would need to be answered.


91 posted on 03/25/2006 1:32:57 PM PST by drhogan
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To: drhogan
before claiming that it constitutes proof, questions about the document itself would need to be answered.

We don't need proof, just enough evidence to justify an inquiry. In this case, the inquiry was already carried out by the US military.

92 posted on 03/25/2006 1:40:23 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: drhogan
Are you aware of the documents on the Prewardocs keyword list.....?

Go here:

Prewardocs list

This one is a good place to start:

US puts Iraqi documents on the Web ~ MSM acknowledges ...Goal is to speed up translation of files

93 posted on 03/25/2006 1:41:03 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: drhogan
"Iraqi humanitarian aid platoon".

LOL

I think you're right - IF he thought there were ever a snow ball's chance in h*ll that we would ever have access to his internal papers.

That's what a bloated ego will getcha...(I hope that television is still going outside Saddam's cell - I feel good just thinking of him watching these docs being translated and knowing just what horrific things he did and was planning on that just might be the next document that sees the light of day. His mama shoulda taught him the old saw: "What goes 'round, comes 'round.")

94 posted on 03/25/2006 1:42:42 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

"This document is a clear indication that Saddam never stopped his WMD program at least up to the year 2001 as the document show because there was still and active Chemical Platoon in Al Qadisia Air base. "



this is a quotation from the original post. there are a number of issues here, if we are talking about clear indication of wmd.
in any science, when a claim is made about evidence, it is considered to be reasonable to ask questions about the evidence.
if you don't establish the validity of the evidence, anybody can claim anything. then it just becomes political, with two groups arguing, but with no way to resolve the question.


95 posted on 03/25/2006 1:44:05 PM PST by drhogan
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

thank you.


96 posted on 03/25/2006 1:45:00 PM PST by drhogan
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To: bnelson44

And just who would Saddam be protecting against in a chemical war....He had them, he used them...


97 posted on 03/25/2006 1:51:22 PM PST by crowman
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To: drhogan
You cannot use documents to prove someone disarmed and destroyed their WMD.
You cannot use documents to prove someone possessed or utilized their WMD.
You CAN use documents to prove someone was telling lies about either disarming, destroying, possessing or utilizing.
The validity of these documents will need to be cross checked and verified. What we do here is discovery and conjecture. We don't have a staff.
98 posted on 03/25/2006 1:52:40 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: drhogan
I think you are running way ahead of the effort,....I think there are 48,000 boxs of documents to be translated....making sense of each and every document will come later,....
99 posted on 03/25/2006 1:52:49 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: jveritas
I think it is much more than a defensive Chemical Platoon.

I agree completely, especially since we know for a FACT that he had chemical weapons and used them.

Keep up the great work! 

100 posted on 03/25/2006 1:54:35 PM PST by 1035rep
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