Posted on 05/21/2006 6:20:18 AM PDT by johnny7
Why can't we impound all money being sent back to mexico by illegal immigrants?
I don't have a huge problem with providing a path to citizenship of many of those already here who have bought into the culture - AS LONG AS THE BORDER IS CONTROLLED. The gov't has to show they are capable before anything else happens.
You are so disingenuous...You know as anyone else that Bush says a wall won't work...This is the wall you are referring to...
Bush recently authorized the completion of a 14-mile fence and concrete barrier along the border near San Diego.
So what is it??? You support open borders, or just blindly follow Bush???
Joe Klein is an idiot or a liberal. Or both.
This is proving Ann Coulter right, once again. If anyone sides with the president, you have to think hard about your position, because liberals support him, and that probably means he is wrong...:)
You're wrong about the wall and what Bush supported. But don't let that stop you from lying.
I've posted links that shows the president supported Sensenbrenner's plan which originally called for a 700 mile wall.
And the president is right. A wall alone isn't going to work. Especially when you have Governors who don't want the wall and environmentalists who are opposing the wall and wimpy states are giving in to them.
I read yesterday, somewhere, that the Senate had either included in it's immigration reform bill or in another proposed bill, that LEGAL immigration quotas were to be increased dramatically - to the tune of at least 100 million (some estimates are higher), over 20 years. If the majority of these legal immigants come from the third world then the demographics of the USA will change big time and so will we. I look towards Europe and shudder. Like communism, multi-culturism is a utopian dream and we are just not ready for it. IMO
The President is so right on this issue that even a dufus like Klein can see it.
And I hate saying that, too.
Anytime someone like Fat Ted, Dingy Harry, Senator Depends and the New York Fishwrap are on the same side as my President, my alarm bells go off.
There is a misconception that the President and Congress are divided . Another possibility exists namely all are playing in concert their predetermined roles.
The illlegals issue can destroy the majorities and everybody knows that.
The House is most vulnerable and all who need be can be on record for strong enforcement. The Senate can afford some dissention and allow members some leeway during the debate to fine tune what ever they need.
The President can take take the high ground.
Althought the final product is not precisely predestined, the main points are. The plan is being worked out before our eyes.
I think that is what everyone wants, build the fence enforce the laws for a few years and we'll discuss amnesty. Why is that such a problem for Bush
Politicians claim to support all sorts of things. We need to observe what happens, not what politicians claim will happen. Note that Bush is a politician capable of being re-elected a couple of times. The States still don't have border responsibility and I wish you would recognize that before continuing with all that governors red herring (one's favorite explicative here)______.
Thanks.
The States still don't have border responsibility and I wish you would recognize that before continuing with all that governors red herring (one's favorite explicative here)______.
NOT TRUE.
The illegals that gained amnesty in CA and their childern are solidly Democratic, and the same is true in other states. The Hispanics that Bush gained the most in are ones in familes that have been in the US for generations, such as parts of Texas(such as San Antonio), New Mexico, and rural Colorado around Pueblo. In areas that have large numers of 1rs and 2nd generation immigrants, such as So Cal, the Denver area and even Dallas TX, Bush saw his percentage go down.
To be blunt, y our views are not just wrong, but they are quite dangerous.
Let's see; Conservatives like Joe Kline, Kennedy, Schumer, Durbin, Hillary Clinton, The New York Times, Lincoln Chafee, and Eleanor Clift are supporting Bush.
Leftist Republican haters like Rush, Hanity, Pinkerton, a majority of House Republicans, Human Events, and the majority of FReepers don't.
Hmmmm, what can we deduce from these facts?
First time I've been told I have dangerous ideas. What is your source for the above? Do you also deny that the areas where GOP is most vulnerable this fall's house races are in areas of the East and Southwest while areas where GOP reelections are slam dunk (the South) is where anti-illegal immigration frenzy is highest.
The GOP districts in the SouthWest are in danger because the base may not turn out, not because of Hispanic anger, but because of conservative anger. In the Eastren districts the GOP is in trouble, its either because they are either heavily blue collar areas impacted by free trade, or they have become socially liberal suburban areas. Generally because of gerrymandering, the Hispanic percantage of GOP districts in the West are less than 20%.
As for anti illegal immigrant frenzy, even where I live ib Ohio, it is quite high, and where I used to live in California, the base is up in arms about it. If the GOP loses seats, it will be because they gave in to amnesty, and the base finally had enough and remained home.
Joe Klein is writing for TIME now?
Wow. He was once a respected journalist and commentator.
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