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Man with AK-47 helps thwart robbery
Express-News Staff ^ | Sept. 10 2006 | Vianna Davila

Posted on 09/10/2006 11:09:01 PM PDT by TexasDontPlay

When Arthur Winters saw two armed robbers terrorizing his neighborhood, he did the only thing he could think of: He asked his wife to bring him his AK-47. "I had to get it to protect my family and the neighbors and all that," Winters said.

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It was part of a series of events, including a fistfight, rock-throwing and haphazard gunshots, that hammered the plans of two robbery suspects Saturday afternoon, leaving one shot and the other stuck in the mud.

Both men faced aggravated robbery charges.

A police report told the tale:

The suspects pulled up in a Ford F-150 and approached Cesar Arellano, busy installing a roof on a home under construction near Barton Court and Hughes Avenue.

Formalities were brief. One of the suspects suddenly put Arellano in a chokehold, and the other pulled out a gun. They demanded money and his rings.

Arellano grabbed the gun. The struggle began.

Arellano's brother, also on site, saw the robbery. He charged and punched one of the intruders.

Amid the mayhem, the handgun went off, and a stray bullet struck one of the suspects.

The brothers managed to break free and run to Winters' house for help.

The wounded suspect bolted for Arellano's vehicle. The other ran for his own pickup.

Neither got too far.

Police later traced the wounded suspect to a location a little more than 2 miles away. He was taken to Wilford Hall Medical Center.

The other suspect's getaway pickup had become stuck in a ditch and then between a curb and a log.

Then it got worse for him. Arellano and his brother started to hurl rocks at the pickup and broke a window. The suspect bailed out, briefly pointed a gun at the brothers and then ran through an open field.

Enter Winters.

He followed through the field, toting the military weapon at his side. When he fired a few rounds at the ground and the suspect kept going, Winters fired some more.

"Then he stopped, completely stopped," Winters said. "I ran up to him, and he just told me not to kill him."

Winters, along with Arellano and his brother, held the suspect until police arrived. The neighborhood was again safe.

"It was a robbery that just went wrong," Winters said.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- vdavila@express-news.net


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; bang; banglist; rkba; txarmedcitizen; vigilantejustice
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To: scripter

Love your tagline. Course, I like C.S.Lewis.


41 posted on 09/11/2006 4:23:58 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: activationproducts

When I sold firearms in a department store a few years ago, the semi-auto version of the AK-47 that we sold was known as the MAK-90, for Modified AK year 1990. They were a cheap Chinese knockoff that looked like they'd fall apart the first time the owner pulled the trigger.


42 posted on 09/11/2006 4:29:43 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson ("I see storms on the horizon.")
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To: killermedic

Note that this was in Texas...


43 posted on 09/11/2006 4:33:09 PM PDT by TrogdortheBurninator (Masters, remember that I am an ass: though it be not written down, yet forget not that I am an ass!)
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To: metmom
Thanks. Here are some additional C.S. Lewis quotes.
44 posted on 09/11/2006 4:34:37 PM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: Spktyr
but he'll probably get away with explaining that he had an AK, which is about as accurate as a Nerf gun

I have one of these and the accuracy is better than I am. Some report 2" groups with these at 100 yards. Now, since I am a civilian (now), I would hate to have to explain how I popped a bad guy at 100 yards in fear of my life.

It is stamped "Las Vegas, NV" and made by Arsenal for $800. This rifle does something that no present AR can - fire 122 grain 30 caliber projectiles at $150/1000 rounds. I know of at least 1 AR in 308 now, but I couldn't afford to feed one of those.

45 posted on 09/11/2006 4:43:45 PM PDT by kerryusama04 (Isa 8:20, Eze 22:26)
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To: kerryusama04

Except that they make AR uppers for just that caliber now...


46 posted on 09/11/2006 5:06:41 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: TexasDontPlay
to bring him his AK-47
Odds are, (and I don't know absolutely), that it was not an AK47 anymore than my AR-15 is a M-16.
It probably was a semi-automatic that looks like an AK-47.

In any case, nice work!

GE
47 posted on 09/11/2006 5:36:50 PM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: Neidermeyer

"Just a small point but one I feel compelled to make ,, this mans weapon was most likely a SKS-47 not an AK-47 , AK = automatic Kalishnikov , SKS = semi-automatic Kalishnikov ,,, I doubt he has a class 3 license for a fully automatic weapon... The weapon model is almost always inaccurately reported in the media.."

Minor point, AK stands for avtomat klashnikov or klashnikov rifle. The SKS fires the same cartridge but uses a different action. The AK available to us civilians is semi-auto but still an AK


48 posted on 09/11/2006 7:05:42 PM PDT by petro45acp (SUPPORT/BE YOUR LOCAL SHEEPDOG! ("On Sheep, Wolves, and Sheepdogs" by Dave Grossman))
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

I know. It was probably "Gimme' my f@#$%^n' AK". Some people are so narrow.


49 posted on 09/11/2006 7:39:48 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: Spktyr

Do you have a link to an AR in 7.62X39? I know they have a couple in 308 (7.62X54). The 308 round and the 223 are both more expensive than the stuff I feed the AK. I considered the AR when I got my AK, but when I put the 223 round next to the 7.62X39, that was it.


50 posted on 09/11/2006 7:41:08 PM PDT by kerryusama04 (Isa 8:20, Eze 22:26)
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To: Eagles6

Finally, my kinda humor.


51 posted on 09/11/2006 7:44:00 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Fight Crime. Shoot Back.)
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To: kerryusama04

Colt used to make them. Olympic Arms and DPMS still make them.
Bushmaster made some for a while, dunno if they still make them. They're growing in popularity again.

That said, *my* AK fires 12ga slugs (or shot).


52 posted on 09/11/2006 7:54:37 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: kerryusama04

7.62 x 39 ammo just spiked. Word is our "friends" the russkies are diverting to iran. Go figure.


53 posted on 09/11/2006 8:01:41 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: Spktyr
I use a mossberg for the 12 gauge.

This is what a yahoo search turned up. The two manufaturers do not list 7.62X39 rifles on their sites. It seems to be an aftermarket/kit thing.

54 posted on 09/11/2006 8:10:46 PM PDT by kerryusama04 (Isa 8:20, Eze 22:26)
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To: Eagles6
My last cheaper than dirt catalog shows 1000 round for $150 but the site says $180. Personally, I have the hollow point.
55 posted on 09/11/2006 8:15:20 PM PDT by kerryusama04 (Isa 8:20, Eze 22:26)
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To: kerryusama04

They're backordered 2-3 months last I heard. Get any you can now.


56 posted on 09/11/2006 8:49:17 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: kerryusama04
"Do you have a link to an AR in 7.62X39? I know they have a couple in 308 (7.62X54)"

7.62x54 is a Russian rimmed cartridge. I think you mean 7.62x51 NATO or 308 Winchester (which are essentially the same).
57 posted on 09/11/2006 8:53:21 PM PDT by Peisistratus (Islam delende est)
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To: kerryusama04

Pumps are slow to reload and subject to operator short stroking under stress.

The Saiga-12 feeds from a 5, 8, or soon 10 round detachable box magazine. And possibly a 20 round "circular mass feeding device" in the future. Even with the kludgy Knoxx tack-on snail mag for the pumps, reloading a pump under stress takes considerable dexterity.


58 posted on 09/11/2006 8:59:26 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Eagles6

No, that ammo is going to Venezuela and Cuba.


59 posted on 09/11/2006 9:18:04 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: DaveLoneRanger

AK 47 ~ Bump!


60 posted on 09/11/2006 10:26:59 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)
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