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Man with AK-47 helps thwart robbery
Express-News Staff ^ | Sept. 10 2006 | Vianna Davila

Posted on 09/10/2006 11:09:01 PM PDT by TexasDontPlay

When Arthur Winters saw two armed robbers terrorizing his neighborhood, he did the only thing he could think of: He asked his wife to bring him his AK-47. "I had to get it to protect my family and the neighbors and all that," Winters said.

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It was part of a series of events, including a fistfight, rock-throwing and haphazard gunshots, that hammered the plans of two robbery suspects Saturday afternoon, leaving one shot and the other stuck in the mud.

Both men faced aggravated robbery charges.

A police report told the tale:

The suspects pulled up in a Ford F-150 and approached Cesar Arellano, busy installing a roof on a home under construction near Barton Court and Hughes Avenue.

Formalities were brief. One of the suspects suddenly put Arellano in a chokehold, and the other pulled out a gun. They demanded money and his rings.

Arellano grabbed the gun. The struggle began.

Arellano's brother, also on site, saw the robbery. He charged and punched one of the intruders.

Amid the mayhem, the handgun went off, and a stray bullet struck one of the suspects.

The brothers managed to break free and run to Winters' house for help.

The wounded suspect bolted for Arellano's vehicle. The other ran for his own pickup.

Neither got too far.

Police later traced the wounded suspect to a location a little more than 2 miles away. He was taken to Wilford Hall Medical Center.

The other suspect's getaway pickup had become stuck in a ditch and then between a curb and a log.

Then it got worse for him. Arellano and his brother started to hurl rocks at the pickup and broke a window. The suspect bailed out, briefly pointed a gun at the brothers and then ran through an open field.

Enter Winters.

He followed through the field, toting the military weapon at his side. When he fired a few rounds at the ground and the suspect kept going, Winters fired some more.

"Then he stopped, completely stopped," Winters said. "I ran up to him, and he just told me not to kill him."

Winters, along with Arellano and his brother, held the suspect until police arrived. The neighborhood was again safe.

"It was a robbery that just went wrong," Winters said.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- vdavila@express-news.net


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; bang; banglist; rkba; txarmedcitizen; vigilantejustice
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1 posted on 09/10/2006 11:09:02 PM PDT by TexasDontPlay
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Don't take a punk pistol to a real gun fight ping!


2 posted on 09/10/2006 11:12:35 PM PDT by Issaquahking (Trust can't be bought)
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To: TexasDontPlay

On one side a Saturday night special, on the other an assault rifle. It's one more klashnokov of cultures.


3 posted on 09/10/2006 11:23:33 PM PDT by tlb
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To: TexasDontPlay

BUMP for good old American bravery! (Nice gun work, guy!)


4 posted on 09/10/2006 11:29:14 PM PDT by Libertina
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To: TexasDontPlay

I hope he had all his background checks, licenses, fingerpring cards, etc. etc in order because we are a society dominated by laws, this is not the wild wild west where everybody who wants to pack a six-shooter, yada yada yada......and what about the real victim who was nearly assaulted by a madman defendin his neighbors and family ina pre-emptive manner. the evil of gun wielding members of society.
I said it here first


5 posted on 09/10/2006 11:30:51 PM PDT by killermedic (Time to thaw out "The Duke!")
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To: killermedic

I forgot my /sarc tag.....sorry


6 posted on 09/10/2006 11:31:29 PM PDT by killermedic (Time to thaw out "The Duke!")
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To: TexasDontPlay
Woo hooo... luv this thread! Poor Robbers...

My personal favorite!


7 posted on 09/10/2006 11:34:09 PM PDT by ChristianDefender (Never Give Your Enemy (ROP) A Foothold.)
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More like a robbery that went right. Lucky for the samaritan that the police didn't ventilate him when they showed up on scene and saw a guy holding an AK


8 posted on 09/10/2006 11:35:50 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (Life is tough. It's even tougher when you're stupid.)
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Its the higher and modern version though...


9 posted on 09/10/2006 11:36:21 PM PDT by ChristianDefender (Never Give Your Enemy (ROP) A Foothold.)
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig

This was in Texas, San Antonio area.

Here in Texas, when the cops show up and see one man holding another at gunpoint on the ground, they usually draw the correct conclusions.


10 posted on 09/11/2006 12:33:33 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: killermedic

This is Texas. What permits?

In fact, the only thing he might get in trouble over (and that would only be with his friends) is that he *didn't* hit his target - but he'll probably get away with explaining that he had an AK, which is about as accurate as a Nerf gun. His friends might still razz him about it, though.


11 posted on 09/11/2006 12:36:05 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: TexasDontPlay

As Carl the "assistant Greenskeeper would say"... drop back, with superior firepower.... and that's all she wrote".


12 posted on 09/11/2006 2:58:51 AM PDT by Walkingfeather (u)
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(snip)"It was a robbery that just went wrong," Winters said. (snip)

No - this was a robbery that went correct. It failed - like robberies should.

13 posted on 09/11/2006 3:05:57 AM PDT by winston2 (In matters of necessity let there be unity, in matters of doubt liberty, and in all things charity:-)
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To: TexasDontPlay

Just a small point but one I feel compelled to make ,, this mans weapon was most likely a SKS-47 not an AK-47 , AK = automatic Kalishnikov , SKS = semi-automatic Kalishnikov ,,, I doubt he has a class 3 license for a fully automatic weapon... The weapon model is almost always inaccurately reported in the media..


14 posted on 09/11/2006 3:25:25 AM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: ChristianDefender

Absolutely gorgeous. Manufacturer; price?


15 posted on 09/11/2006 3:29:56 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: TexasDontPlay

""It was a robbery that just went wrong,"

What? How does a robbery got RIGHT?


16 posted on 09/11/2006 4:30:02 AM PDT by observer5 (It's not a War on Terror - it's a WAR ON STUPIDITY)
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To: Neidermeyer

You don't know what you are talking about. The SKS is not a Kalashnikov of any sort. It is the Simonov Self Loading Carbine. SKS is short for Samozaryadnyi Karabin Simonova.

What is guy had was likely a semi-auto,non-NFA Kalashnikov rifle. These are widely available on the market and are basically a rifle consisting of parts from a real imported AK with a new receiver which cannot accept the selective fire components. What he had was probably a Kalashnikov just not an Avtomat Kalashnikov.


17 posted on 09/11/2006 4:36:36 AM PDT by activationproducts
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To: Spktyr
As an owner of an AK, no one is quicker to recognize their limitations than me, but I'd like to relate a story. By the time I broke in the barrel on my AK, barrel heat would cause the second 10 shots to hit anywhere in a pie plate at about 100 yards and no better. But I took some copper solvent and gave that barrel the scrubbing of a lifetime... at least 20 passes, with the solvent setting in the barrel for 20 minutes or so between each pass. Eventually, the patches started coming out clean. The next 10 shots from that barrel were in a three inch group at 100 yards, from a sitting position.

The sighting picture is a mess, but you put a low power scope on that thing and it will hit what you need it to. It will never match an AR, but it will go bang every time and meet my personal minimum accuracy requirements.You can hit what you need to with it.
18 posted on 09/11/2006 4:45:40 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

IBTP


19 posted on 09/11/2006 5:22:56 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: TexasDontPlay

There are lots of ex-military men in San Antonio...and lots of AK-47s. It makes the neighborhood much safer, as anyone with a brain knows.


20 posted on 09/11/2006 5:27:26 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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