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Dissidents Against Dogma (Global warming greenhousers beware!)
The Nation ^ | June 25, 2007 | Alexander Cockburn

Posted on 06/10/2007 2:59:46 PM PDT by neverdem

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First, there were deniers. Now, we have greenhousers! IMHO, the terms of invective are now more equal.
1 posted on 06/10/2007 2:59:50 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Limbaugh cited this author a month ago and referred to the fact that climate models don’t factor in precipitation. WTF? And this is all called settled science. BS.


2 posted on 06/10/2007 3:06:58 PM PDT by Thebaddog (My dogs are tired)
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To: xcamel; DaveLoneRanger; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; All
Global Warming: Truth or Dare?

Even some lefties get somethings right.

3 posted on 06/10/2007 3:10:25 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

-—even a wild one such as Cockburn-—


4 posted on 06/10/2007 3:11:46 PM PDT by rellimpank (-don't believe anything the MSM states about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: rellimpank

BFL


5 posted on 06/10/2007 3:20:26 PM PDT by jebeier (Never ascribe to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity. But is stupidity adequate?)
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To: neverdem

You guys aren’t going to believe this...I just saw a pig fly past my window.


6 posted on 06/10/2007 3:44:48 PM PDT by gorush (Exterminate the Moops!)
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To: neverdem
This is very interesting. Liberals try to rationalize a conclusion that is contrary to common acceptable thought. This gives them the feeling that they are smarter than the average bear. Here is a lefty taking an opposing view to global warming because he thinks that is the accepted norm.
7 posted on 06/10/2007 3:51:00 PM PDT by gorush (Exterminate the Moops!)
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To: neverdem

8 posted on 06/10/2007 4:17:33 PM PDT by sourcery (Double Feature: "The Amnestyville Horror" and "Kill the Bill, Vol. 2")
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To: neverdem
Michaels is often slammed as a hired gun for the fossil fuel industry

Why is it that the "hired guns" of the greenie kooks aren't called so in a derogatory manner? Perhaps someone who really knows something about fossil fuels just might have the right perspective on this issue.

I know the answer, but it is frustrating.

9 posted on 06/10/2007 4:19:40 PM PDT by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: sourcery

Thanks for the links.


10 posted on 06/10/2007 4:23:41 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: SteamShovel

Ironically, 99.99% of the hired guns are on the pro-global warming side.


11 posted on 06/10/2007 4:27:01 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: neverdem

CO2 ping-a-roo


12 posted on 06/10/2007 4:32:06 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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13 posted on 06/10/2007 4:32:13 PM PDT by xcamel ("It's Thompson Time!")
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To: xcamel

BUMP!


14 posted on 06/10/2007 4:57:50 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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BTTT


15 posted on 06/10/2007 5:27:15 PM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Global Warming Heretic -- http://agw-heretic.blogspot.com)
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To: neverdem

http://newsbusters.org/node/12852 - Global Warming: ‘It’s All Going to be a Joke in 5 Years’

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_Climatic_Optimum Climatic Optimum “From this data they have found that during most of the Earth’s history global temperatures were probably 8 to 15° Celsius warmer than today.”

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=f7806f79-bf1f-4bd1-8d33-c904feb71047 “Even climate change experts say many of the claims in Al Gore’s film are wrong.”

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=28395 - “Many environmentalists have to have the doom and gloom outlook because, perversely, it makes them happy.”

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/060926_solar_activity.html Increase in Sunspot Activity

http://www.livescience.com/environment/060713_global_warming.html

http://www.canada.com/components/print.aspx?id=d0235a70-33f1-45b3-803b-829b1b3542ef

“Scientists who actually work in these fields flatly contradict Gore.”

http://www.gsfc.nasa.gov/topstory/20020820southseaice.html “SATELLITES SHOW OVERALL INCREASES IN ANTARCTIC SEA ICE COVER” - Goddard Space Flight Center

The Little Ice Age in Europe http://www2.sunysuffolk.edu/mandias/lia/little_ice_age.html

http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/klu/clim/2004/00000063/F0020001/05140445;jsessionid=1c5j0gvzund7i.henrietta “Since 1940, however, the Greenland coastal stations data have undergone predominantly a cooling trend. At the summit of the Greenland ice sheet the summer average temperature has decreased at the rate of 2.2 °C per decade since the beginning of the measurements in 1987.”

Evidence mounts for Arctic Oscillation’s impact on northern climate: http://www.washington.edu/newsroom/news/1999archive/12-99archive/k121699.html

North Atlantic Oscillation: http://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/NAO/

The Pacific Decadal Oscillation: http://jisao.washington.edu/pdo/

http://www.atmo.arizona.edu/students/courselinks/fall04/atmo336/lectures/sec5/holocene.html (be sure to check out the charts of Earth’s rapid climate changes)

Earth’s Climatic History: http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/7x.html

From: http://www.sepp.org/keyissue.html - “Controversies about environmental hazards and the management of natural resources have spilled over into attacks on scientists who do not subscribe to “politically correct” views. Scientific evidence based on observed facts is being subordinated to speculative theory and unverified computer models. Scientific debate is being replaced by pressure to conform to a new orthodoxy, reinforced by the control of research funds by governmental agencies. Particularly disturbing is the increasing evidence that this funding biases even scientific organizations and university science faculties. Yet the future of science depends on open and untrammeled debate. For related commentary, see Misuse of Science.”

From: http://www.sepp.org/statment.html - “As independent scientists, researching atmospheric and climate problems, we are concerned by the agenda for UNCED, the United Nations Conference on Environment and Development, being developed by environmental activist groups and certain political leaders.”

From: http://www.oism.org/pproject/ - “This treaty is, in our opinion, based upon flawed ideas. Research data on climate change do not show that human use of hydrocarbons is harmful.” - Frederick Seitz, Past President, National Academy of Sciences, U.S.A.

From: http://www.sitewave.net/news/s49p1523.htm - “Despite billions of dollars and millions of propaganda headlines, the global warming prophesied by the climate modeling industry is not scientifically real”

From: http://www.sitewave.net/news/s49p1521.htm - “I have been asked to talk about what I consider the most important challenge facing mankind, and I have a fundamental answer. The greatest challenge facing mankind is the challenge of distinguishing reality from fantasy, truth from propaganda … As an example of this challenge, I want to talk today about environmentalism. – “Environmentalism as Religion” by Michael Crighton

From: http://www.friendsofscience.org/ - “Never in world history, outside the collective insanity marshaled behind Marxism through much of the last century, has a political movement required such an unrelenting flood of propaganda and media manipulation to stay afloat.”

From: http://www.friendsofscience.org/index.php?ide=4 - (COMMON MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING) “MYTH 1: Global temperatures are rising at a rapid, unprecedented rate … “

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http://aa.usno.navy.mil/faq/docs/seasons_orbit.html: Milankovitch Cycles

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/milankovitch.html: Astronomical Theory of Climate Change

http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/7y.html: Factors That Influence Earth’s Climate

The “Little Ice Age” http://www2.sunysuffolk.edu/mandias/lia/little_ice_age.html (a very cold climate between 1560 and 1850 - we are still warming up from this)


16 posted on 06/10/2007 5:36:58 PM PDT by George - the Other
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To: George - the Other

Thanks for the links.


17 posted on 06/10/2007 7:14:42 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

Funny Christopher Hitchens a hard leftest is slamming Global Warming as total myth... and now Alexander Cockburn who in so far left he makes Hitchens look, politicaly, like Rush ...


18 posted on 06/10/2007 8:16:15 PM PDT by tophat9000 (My 2008 grassroots Republican platform: Build the fence, enforce the laws, and win the damm WAR!)
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To: neverdem

Funny Christopher Hitchens a hard leftest is slamming Global Warming as total myth... and now Alexander Cockburn who in so far left he makes Hitchens look, politicaly, like Rush ...


19 posted on 06/10/2007 8:16:36 PM PDT by tophat9000 (My 2008 grassroots Republican platform: Build the fence, enforce the laws, and win the damm WAR!)
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To: neverdem

Funny Christopher Hitchens a hard leftest is slamming Global Warming as total myth... and now Alexander Cockburn who in so far left he makes Hitchens look, politicaly, like Rush ...


20 posted on 06/10/2007 8:16:42 PM PDT by tophat9000 (My 2008 grassroots Republican platform: Build the fence, enforce the laws, and win the damm WAR!)
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