Posted on 08/13/2007 5:02:18 AM PDT by Caleb1411
That’s a good one. Will add it to my repertoire.
And when these kids head out into real life with these monstrously inflated egos, they will fail miserably as they realize their boss doesn’t recognize their specialness and demands honest, productive work from them. Ultimately, many of them will end up being hogs at the welfare trough.
It is sad. A lot of people think they should win. When one objected that she had had years of voice lessons, simon rep0lied that her coach had just taken her money.
Orthodox yes, as the statement of poster 8 by Lewis was lifted from Philipians 2:3. IN LOWLINESS OF MIND, LET EACH ESTEEM OTHER GREATER THAN HIMSELF".
I remember when pride was a vice. Today it is exalted. Self love, self acceptance, self affirmation, self ad nauseum. Someone said, "Deny self, take up the........". He was a smart guy. He seemed to have right understanding of the world. He was really smart.
"In the day that you eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, your eyes will be open and you will be as god". Yes, lets exalt self and self actualize as Abraham Maslow so ordered, and realize that we are that. Or as Carl Jung told us, we are part of that collective spirit, the collective unconsciousness and in us dwells infinite potential.
It is important to remind ourselves of what we have established today. Whether one is involved in psychotherapy, witchcraft, socery, or self-improvement techniques, the underlying philosphy is the same. The entire Ne Age movement embodies ancient occult ideas repackged in pseudoscientific language for modern consumption. It is naturalism/pantheism/ in opposition to supernaturalism/monotheism. In this schema man is a creature of the impersonal and uncreated cosmos rather than of a personal creator, and contains within himself (by virtue of his oneness with the cosmos) all wisdom, knowledge, and power. This is not ordinarily apparent because we have "forgotten" our true identities: and these limitless resources, which are now known only the the alleged "higher self", lie buried in Jung's "collective unconscious." I wonder, if we are God, how could we forget all of this repressed realized godhood?
The message, 'You are god', is a package which has been sold since Genesis 3. It has flown off of the shelf in many packages, but always the same. It is quiet simply, the lie. Self actualization, stolen by Maslow form the Hindu gurus 'self realization' continues to be sold in many guises, but always the same.
A confident post...but not an especially bright one.
“As I see it used by the education establishment, it appears to mean something different than your definition...in fact, it appears synonymous with “ego,” because that is what the local public schools are achieving.”
From what I can glean from my childrens’ papers, the message is “everyone is unique, everyone is special.”
Which is true - and not a bad message for children.
Where it goes whacky is when they think eliminating competition from the educational process is “good” for children.
There are alot of teachers who think kids shouldn’t play games where a score is being kept - or where one team loses and another team wins.
They don’t like to say a kid has “failed.” Instead they say the child has not “mastered” the material, so let’s work it again until it is “mastered.”
It’s this strange non-competitive world that insulates kids from what is waiting for them in the real world.
Some of that comes from teachers who don’t know anything except who is hiring. Mixing education with unions and politics has been a disaster.
Actually, in my generation, mastery was characteristic of 8th grade grads.
Well, doesn’t the sense of right and wrong include one’s own actions? And if you constantly feel as though you are “right,” how can you possibly criticize yourself enough to even have a conscience?
Failing that, take a look at what’s coming out of our school system as it is now, and compare it with what schools produced when they taught little things like achievement and self responsibility.
These people don't act as they do because they feel they are right. They they rationalize their behavior by telling themselves that the end justifies the means. As I said above, genuine self-esteem confers humility - and a recognition of the worth of others. That's what Islamic terrorists and criminals lack - they loathe their own existence and want to end it and take everyone else with them.
Some years ago I had a minor encounter at the mall with a young, "urban" employee who had to give me a hand-written credit.
The amount, as she wrote it, was incorrect, which I pointed out to her. She said, "No...that's just the way I make my 7s."
It not only did not look like a 7, it looked like a 5. Not ambiguous as thought it might have been either a 5 or a 7...it was clearly what most of us recognize as a 5 and would never question.
Her quick, defensive response to me made it clear that she had been frequently challenged on her idiosyncratic habit of making her 7s exactly like what the rest of the world regards as a 5.
Her self-esteem was so great that she saw no need to conform to the boring way that everybody else makes 7s.
But she conformed for me, by God.
I wouldn't mind that at all...as long as the standard was insisted on.
Nothing wrong with being gentle in telling a kid that they are not getting it done.
Thanks. I am going to use that one.
I teach Engineering. Recently I was assigned to teach a service course taken by students from several departments. I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of students who actually came to see me during my office hours last semester.
However, once the course grades were posted, I was besieged by students wanting to discuss their grades with me. Almost all said that they had "worked so hard" on my course that they deserved a better grade. Some warned that they would lose their scholarships if I didn't act. Some blamed me for their poor performance on exams. Considering their hard work and their potential for future greatness—and my obvious incompetence—several students were prepared to argue that an A-minus would be more appropriate than the C or D they received.
To get anything done, I had to stay home and stop answering my telephone.
I never said they should loath self. Just a dose of reality of what they 'really are'.
Hey, lets tell the gangsters, terrorists, licentious pop stars and corrupt politicians we really appreciate the fact that their behavior reflect that goodness which we all aspire to. Yes, yes, that is it. Lets pump up their 'Self idolotry'.
Most lower tier and even middle tier colleges/universities along with “Community Colleges” have their course work set up so the student actually has to work hard at a course to get anything lower than a “B”. Graduate school (with the exception of law/med school is set up the same way.
true...I guess it depends on the age you’re talking about.
Telling a 3rd grader they have “failed” their reading course may be harsh on the kid.
Telling a 14 yr. old, or older, they have “failed” something is preparing them for the real world.
In other words, they are "right."
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