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The Self Esteem Myth
Townhall ^ | August 9, 2007 | Ashley Herzog

Posted on 08/13/2007 5:02:18 AM PDT by Caleb1411

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1 posted on 08/13/2007 5:02:19 AM PDT by Caleb1411
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The experts are behind the curve on this one. What we really need are books on how to deal with these kids now that they’re becoming established in the workplace.


2 posted on 08/13/2007 5:06:20 AM PDT by Lil'freeper (You do not have the plug-in required to view this tagline.)
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When 15,000 people show up for American Idol tryouts, you know that their self images are out of whack.


3 posted on 08/13/2007 5:08:27 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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As I am fond of pointing out, self-esteem is a vice. Indeed, it is numbered among the ‘eight grevious vices’ by St. John Cassian (the other seven are familiar to Western Christians as ‘the seven deadly sins’).


4 posted on 08/13/2007 5:13:25 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: Lil'freeper
What we really need are books on how to deal with these kids now that they’re becoming established in the workplace.

Fire them when they don't work out.

5 posted on 08/13/2007 5:13:31 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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Self-esteem is an entitlement.

The author is confusing self-esteem with ego. This is a null article.

6 posted on 08/13/2007 5:14:51 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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Aaaahhh...the refreshing cool breeze of common sense!


7 posted on 08/13/2007 5:17:11 AM PDT by Drawsing (The fool shows his annoyance at once. The prudent man overlooks an insult. (Proverbs 12:16))
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“Do nothing from selfishness or conceit, but in humility count others better than yourself.”

C.S. Lewis, in “Screwtape Proposes a Toast,” identified self-esteem, “I’m as good as anyone else!” as a tool of the devil.


8 posted on 08/13/2007 5:17:29 AM PDT by Tax-chick (All the main characters die, and then the Prince of Norway delivers the Epilogue.)
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One popular method tells teachers not to correct students’ spelling or grammar, arguing that kids should be ‘independent spellers’ so they can be treated as ‘individuals.’”

I about tore my hair out trying to understand some of the papers that these self esteemed individuals had ritin.
9 posted on 08/13/2007 5:18:08 AM PDT by crazyhorse691 (The faithful will keep their heads down, their powder dry and hammer at the enemies flanks.)
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What these idiots don't realize is that both self respect AND self esteem need to be earned. Self esteem is "being proud of yourself." The question "why should I be proud of myself" needs to be asked... When it's not earned, it's not only worthless, it can lead to serious problems with the individual, as we've been seeing for quite some time.

Mark

10 posted on 08/13/2007 5:19:57 AM PDT by MarkL (Listen, Strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government)
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“people with high self-esteem tend to be unwilling to take responsibility for their own failures and bad behavior.”

This is the meat of the article. The spoiled little brats in school today are shining examples of this. It’s always somebody elses fault.


11 posted on 08/13/2007 5:21:42 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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What we really need are books on how to deal with these kids now that they’re becoming established in the workplace.

My plan is early retirement.

12 posted on 08/13/2007 5:27:22 AM PDT by nina0113 (If fences don't work, why does the White House have one?)
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What these idiots don't realize is that both self respect AND self esteem need to be earned.

That's why the article is off base. Self-esteem is earned - using the term to mean the "fluff up the ego movement" popular in schools and government hiring in recent decades is a gross inaccuracy.

13 posted on 08/13/2007 5:30:07 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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They must have screwed up, I don’t have very good self-esteem. My grammar is also not well, either!


14 posted on 08/13/2007 5:30:14 AM PDT by Zeon Cowboy (Pardon Ramos and Compean NOW! // Duncan Hunter '08)
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“When 15,000 people show up for American Idol tryouts, you know that their self images are out of whack.”

Absolutely BRILLIANT observation! LOL!


15 posted on 08/13/2007 5:31:15 AM PDT by Dudoight
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As a teacher, what I find going on is a vast effort to “give” children esteem/positive self image. These can’t be given, they must be developed. They are not developed by repeating over and over that Johnny is a good boy (or displaying those “My child is a Terrific Kid” bumper stickers.) True esteem comes from the individual setting and achieving real/noble goals.


16 posted on 08/13/2007 5:31:37 AM PDT by MarDav
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Indeed, it is numbered among the ‘eight grevious vices’ by St. John Cassian (the other seven are familiar to Western Christians as ‘the seven deadly sins’).

Probably the worst one, because it leads directly to the sinner finding something better to do with his money than tithing it to pretentious, lecturing churchmen. ;)

17 posted on 08/13/2007 5:32:15 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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“What these idiots don’t realize is that both self respect AND self esteem need to be earned...”

You beat me.


18 posted on 08/13/2007 5:32:57 AM PDT by MarDav
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When 15,000 people show up for American Idol tryouts, you know that their self images are out of whack.

And, the least talented of them get angry at the judges.
19 posted on 08/13/2007 5:33:34 AM PDT by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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In drug and alcohol rehab, the counselors push to instill and establish "self-esteem" in their patients.

Man, that was last the last thing some of us needed. :-)
20 posted on 08/13/2007 5:37:40 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....when the sidewalks are safe for the little guy.)
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