Ruling Allows Navy to Continue Using Low-Frequency Sonar

NAVY newsstand ^ | Mass Communication Specialist 1st Class Brandan W. Schulze

[Nervous Tick]

>> Schregardus said claims that SURTASS LFA destroys ocean life and cannot be operated in harmony with the environment are “simply untrue and not supported by scientific fact.”

Navy 1, Greenpeace 0

(I presume it was Greenpeace that sued them, or somesuch.)

Good news!

[JerseyHighlander]

I don’t know what your reason for posting this here is, but the evidence against this type of sonar is pretty damning and well documented. Frying whales brains with sonar is an incredibly sick endeavor.

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

This ruling spares the National Marine Fisheries Services headquarters from a much deserved naval bombardment.

[vetsvette]

Imagine that! A court that thinks protecting Americans might just be as important as protecting whales.

[LilAngel]

Good. Now we need a final final ruling that they can just use it, period. No restrictions. No permits. No expiration dates. Why do we allow peons to dictate national security policy?

[american_ranger]

I don’t know what your reason for posting this here is, but the evidence against this type of sonar is pretty damning and well documented. Frying whales brains with sonar is an incredibly sick endeavor.

3 posted on 08/21/2007 6:48:07 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander

Imagine that. Depth charges and hedgehogs during WWII were also damaging to underwater animals. Well, I'll be damned, they survived WWII, we survived WWII, and the Nazis and Japs didn't.

[encm(ss)]

Thanks for posting, Sandrat. I think that protection of America from foreign intruders is high on my list of priorities. Some foks don’t get it and probabaly never will. Hopefully, we will be able to track diesel submarines in the future.

A retired diesel submariner.

[LilAngel]

Fried whale brains? You’re making me hungry.

[navyguy]

“I don’t know what your reason for posting this here is, but the evidence against this type of sonar is pretty damning and well documented. Frying whales brains with sonar is an incredibly sick endeavor.”

How many lives of American sailors are you will to sacrifice? 10? 100? 1,000? How many?

[Nervous Tick]

>> the evidence against this type of sonar is pretty damning and well documented.

Since that is (in your mind) true, I’m sure you won’t have any problem posting links to back up your assertions.

>> Frying whales brains with sonar is an incredibly sick endeavor.

Insinuating that the USN uses sonar for the purpose of “frying whale brains” is an incredibly naive and asinine assertion.

[LilAngel]

You got that right. Any good cook knows you need a cast iron pan and plenty of lard. ; )

[Nervous Tick]

>> need a cast iron pan and plenty of lard.

Lard? Why not blubber?

[Nathan Zachary]

"I don’t know what your reason for posting this here is, but the evidence against this type of sonar is pretty damning and well documented. Frying whales brains with sonar is an incredibly sick endeavor."

That's complete hogwash. Didn't you ever notice that these claims are always found on web sites that also have "Bush used explosives on the world trade center", "windmills are wiping out birds" and other moonbat conspiracy theories on them?

[encm(ss)]

Thanks. These new computer inventions are mind boggleing. Who knows? Next thing you know we’ll be talking through wires!

[A.A. Cunningham]

STFU

[LilAngel]

Silly me. I haven’t made fried whale brains lately. I fry just about everything in lard, so just didn’t think of the blubber. I guess I should step aside and leave the cooking to you. I’ll just bring the collard greens, seasoned with a little ham hock.

[Justa]

Please explain how low frequency sound waves can "fry" anything? Could you please post some of the "well documented" evidence?

[Nervous Tick]

>> I’ll just bring the collard greens

Collard greens & ham hock! Now you’re making ME hungry!

(Funny how everything tastes better cooked in real animal fat. There’s no tastier way to make refried beans, as just ONE example...)

[JerseyHighlander]

1. I would eat fried whale brains
2. Read the amicus brief by the International Whaling Commission in this case. Also read this: http://www.history.navy.mil/library/online/sonar_mammal.htm
3. The Navy couldn’t and still hasn’t tried to deny the fact the Low frequency sonar is killing many many whales within range when ever the LFA sonar is pinged.
4. This is different than prior situations because the sonar is radiating outward many nautical miles within certain layers of the ocean, and are affecting the entire population of whales in the area.