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Researcher's Say Italy's 5,000-Year-Old Iceman Died From Head Trauma, Not Arrow (Oetzi)
IHT ^ | 8-28-2007

Posted on 08/29/2007 9:26:19 AM PDT by blam

Researchers say Italy's 5,000-year-old Iceman died from head trauma, not arrow

The Associated PressPublished: August 28, 2007

ROME, Italy: Researchers studying Iceman, the 5,000-year-old mummy found frozen in the Italian Alps, have come up with a new theory for how he died, saying he died from head trauma, not by bleeding to death from an arrow.

Just two months ago, researchers in Switzerland published an article in the Journal of Archaeological Science saying the mummy — also known as Oetzi — had died after the arrow tore a hole in an artery beneath his left collarbone, leading to massive loss of blood, shock and heart attack.

But radiologists, pathologists and other researchers, using new forensic information and CAT scans, said Tuesday they believed that the blood loss from the arrow wound only made Oetzi lose consciousness. They believe he died either by hitting his head on a rock when he passed out or because his aggressor attacked him again with a blow to the head.

The researchers presented their findings Monday night at the Institute for Mummies and the Iceman at the European Academy in Bolzano, a research institution. The mummy institute was launched in July to coordinate research into Oetzi, who is housed in the nearby South Tyrol Archaeological Museum.

In a statement Tuesday, the academy said the findings reopened the debate over Oetzi's cause of death, particularly since they took into account the rather unnatural way in which his body was found: face down, with his left arm across his chest.

The researchers believe the Iceman fell over backward, but was then turned over onto his stomach by his aggressor who then pulled out the arrow shaft while leaving the arrowhead imbedded in Oetzi's shoulder.

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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

It was Colonel Mustard in the Alps with the Club!


61 posted on 08/29/2007 7:43:09 PM PDT by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

I would write that you are incorrigible, but you would reply that you have never in your life visited corrigible.


62 posted on 08/29/2007 7:43:28 PM PDT by Enterprise (I can't talk about liberals anymore because some of the words will get me sent to rehab.)
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To: Enterprise

True. And in a related case of oh the hugh manatee, I have never been in a dirigible.


63 posted on 08/29/2007 7:50:05 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: Enterprise

Actually, he is quite easily incorraged. He’s both hoarse and corraged. It’s hard to discorrage him, even with coaching.


64 posted on 08/29/2007 8:32:16 PM PDT by LexBaird (Tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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To: Red Badger

Quincy? I think Monk wanted to solve this, but was pulled away.


65 posted on 08/29/2007 8:41:38 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

Thanks for the ping!


66 posted on 08/29/2007 9:27:44 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

You’re welcome! One more entry for DSL?


67 posted on 08/29/2007 9:33:05 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Poor Oetzi, RIP.


68 posted on 08/29/2007 10:05:11 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

LOLOL!


69 posted on 08/29/2007 10:43:01 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: blam
They believe he died either by hitting his head on a rock when he passed out or because his aggressor attacked him again with a blow to the head.

How do we know that Oetzi wasn't the aggressor, and the arrow and the blow to the head were from someone successfully defending himself from Oetzi's predations? I think Oetzi had it coming.

70 posted on 08/29/2007 11:10:02 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: blam
Ok, so we have a guy who got shot with an arrow fatally and then either fell and bumped his head real bad or was bashed over the head by an enemy caveman.

Are we paying for this research???? Can we try and find out why 2300 children a year are going blind because Africa can't figure out how to grow carrots? Cancer? Heart Disease? Cerebral Palsy?

*hums Too Much Time On Their Hands*

71 posted on 08/30/2007 12:01:42 AM PDT by Hi Heels (Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

Thank you so much for the ping to fun with puns...!


72 posted on 08/30/2007 2:52:14 AM PDT by .30Carbine (And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. ~1Cor.14:32)
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To: blam

CSI Balanzo


73 posted on 08/30/2007 2:54:42 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake but Accurate, Experts Say)
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To: Froufrou

Not when it’s found in the collar bone.


74 posted on 08/30/2007 2:55:41 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake but Accurate, Experts Say)
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To: JackRyanCIA
Leather soles. Slipped on the ice?

Then shot himself in the collar bone with an arrow. Clumsy chap.

His heirs will take comfort in knowing that John Edwards will now sue the entity responsible for the maintenance of the path and its successors.

75 posted on 08/30/2007 2:58:09 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake but Accurate, Experts Say)
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To: NewMexLurker; afortiori

Good points, but it might not have been solo combat, two groups might have met, one opponent shot him with an arrow, another bashed in his head. They were too busy with his comrades to worry about looting his corpse at the time (and may not have survived the encounter.)

The arrow could have been broken off and lost in any number of ways.


76 posted on 08/30/2007 3:03:38 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake but Accurate, Experts Say)
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To: Yehuda

Death by head trauma. Incipient ROP at play?


77 posted on 08/30/2007 3:08:04 AM PDT by Thinkin' Gal
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To: KarlInOhio
Arrows don’t kill people, arrow shooters do. Quit blaming the weapon, someone will want to ban them.
79 posted on 08/30/2007 5:08:24 AM PDT by U S Army EOD (Say Cheese.)
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To: blam

Does this mean we should have banned arrows and clubs?


80 posted on 08/30/2007 5:09:01 AM PDT by U S Army EOD (Say Cheese.)
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