Brilliant - KSD decision [VANITY]

11/16/09 | Paul K. Osborn

[Darteaus94025]

Brilliant
Like most Americans, I was initially shocked at the decision announced by the Obama administration to prosecute Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (KSD) and other Guantanamo Bay Naval Base detainees in New York under civilian law. I was shocked by the prima facie stupidity of the decision to unnecessarily avail terrorists with the full rights, legal processes and courtroom procedures due an American citizen. I love America, and I want what’s best for her. But, when one hates the traditional American way of life, this decision is a masterstroke.


To cripple and ultimately destroy a stronger or entrenched adversary, invest in tactics whose deployment costs little, but your foe must spend far more to purchase an effective defense.
Moving the terrorists to New York will require millions simply to provide for years of their physical security. The trial process will require tens of millions more - per month: Will the courtroom and court building be hardened physically? How far around the court will the security zone extend, and how many layers of security will there be? Will the jury be sequestered? Will their families be protected, and for how long? Soft costs include: traffic closures during each detainee and witness movement, the productivity loss of family and friends reliving 911 during the months of trial, etc. These costs must be borne during the year(s) of the trial and the years of the appeals processes. These trial and appeals processes cost Al-Qaeda literally nothing, and they will ultimately cost America hundreds of millions of dollars.


Force your foe to reveal the sources and methods of their intelligence gathering, as this immediately compromises the intelligence gathering assets themselves, thereby weakening the intelligence organizations. Furthermore, intelligence agency revelations provide Al-Qaeda agents, handlers, trainers and organization with an actual itemized list of do’s and don’ts to avoid detection and survive interrogation.
KSD simply needs to demand the right to confront his accusers, i.e. the agents who interrogated and processed him: “Please state your name for the record.” “Tell the jury the exact protocol for all methods of ‘enhanced interrogation.’ ” “List all agents and the agencies of those agents who were involved during the entire interrogation and custody process of the accused.” During the trial of KSD, our agents, our techniques and our ally’s agents will become known and thus ineffective, i.e. we give our playbook to the other side.


Employ these tactics in front of a wide audience in order to: reveal your foe’s weakness, what will happen to each of your foe’s potential allies, how Al-Qaeda now drives international events, and, ultimately, advance Al-Qaeda’s financial and recruiting efforts.
Who doubts the acclaim and cheers that KSD and his fellows will receive as they humiliate the Great Satan via world-wide simulcast day after day from the very belly of the beast? Donations and Jihadists flock to the organization that leads the humiliation of the Great Satan bringing power to that organization’s leaders. Furthermore, will members of the US military receive increased local support as they crawl in the dust of Afghanistan trying to avoid IEDs while Al Jezzerra shows KSD grandstanding everyday in New York?


In the eyes of an administration that advanced the idea of prosecuting CIA agents, an administration that surrounds itself with and assimilates the vanguard of the most radical elements of unAmerican society, the decision to force America to pay terrorists to stage a Ground Zero Théâtre de l'Absurde revealing and betraying America’s agents and allies in the War On Terror while advancing militant Islamic organizational goals must appear brilliant.

[null and void]

KSD=KSM????

[Tijeras_Slim]

KFC?

[Hodar]

Obama knew he couldn’t pardon this man; so he did the next best thing.

Our own laws will mean this man walks - we have no warrants for the information we have on this guy, we have waterboarded him, thus any information we have gotten is inadmissable, there is no clear line of evidence custody, so that cannot be used, he is promised the right to face his accusers, so everyone who was involved in covert action, is now going to be publically displayed.

Obama has weakened us, and now is openly provoking and protecting those who wish us death. This is nothing less than a “Presidential Pardon”.

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An open challenge to all FReepers, Lurkers, O-Bots and Trolls

I believe that everything 0bama has done has:

A. weakened America
B. strengthened islam
C. attacked Israel

...or some combination of the above.

Can anyone cite something he’s done that doesn’t fit A, B and/or C?

I beg of you, if you can think of anything post it on that thread.

[SJSAMPLE]

TCB?

[Hoodat]

If the Constitution in its entirety applies to KSM in this case, then he can be tried for treason against the United States.

The ball is now back in your court, libs.

[sam_paine]

KSD/KSM/KFC/WTF/BBQ?

[HiTech RedNeck]

yeah.

anyhow how in the world does he expect to find anybody in new york who was not touched by 9/11? no such person will be allowed to serve on that jury.

[Tijeras_Slim]

BFD!

[Flightdeck]

“This is nothing less than a “Presidential Pardon”.”

That’s crazy, he’s not going to walk. Although if he did, the one upside would be that Obama would be violently thrown out of the WH on his ass.

[Tijeras_Slim]

KSD/KSM/KFC/WTF/BBQ?

WTG!

[Darteaus94025]

Whoops! I musta been thinking of LSD.

[null and void]

No problem.

Make the jury up entirely of recent immigrants and yutes.

[null and void]

KSM, LSD.

One’s a drug.

The other’s a dope.

[sam_paine]

WTG!

LOL!

[thethirddegree]

I would be interested in a thread focused on how we can legally get rid of Obama.

[Hodar]

That’s crazy, he’s not going to walk.

I wish I had your conviction; but lets look at the facts.

He was held without bail, denied a fast and speedy trial, all the evidence we have on him has not only lost it's chain of custody, but was gained without a Search Warrant. His confessions were obtained under torture (ie waterboarding). He was denied legal representation, and his Miranda rights were never read to him, he was not given his phone call; everything we have on him, was gotten through means other than those used on Americans. We will have to not only tell how we got phone conversations, but who was involved, our sources and how that information was disseminated.

So, what are you going to try him with? Being ridiculously good looking? The president has admitted that this man was tortured, he has been denied legal representation, his miranda rights were not read to him. He is going to walk.

What is going to happen? Well, this will turn into an attack on Pres. GW Bush; and this man will use the press to launch a series of attacks on America - it will turn into a circus. Mark me well, Pres. Bush will be called to testify on war crimes; and then we have the precident. Terrorists who survived a Predator drone attack will sue in the USA, because they were not given the opportunity to surrender, and they can claim anything they want. So, we have a choice; give up our information sources (ie. they get their heads cut off); or the US taxpayer pays millions in fees. Lawyers will see a chance to make a buck; so there will be a legal feeding frenzy.

[Defiant]

Should be KSO.

Khalid Sheikh Obama. Mmmm, mmmm, mmmm.

[null and void]

Although demonstrating that he is not a Natural Born Citizen would do that, no one has “standing” to see his long-form birth certificate.

Welcome to Hell.