Posted on 02/19/2010 9:27:00 AM PST by butterdezillion
On Jan 27, 2010 Hawaii State Senator Will Espero has introduced a bill to label some people "vexatious requestors" who can be denied responses from the DOH. This action was taken 2 weeks after I posted "Red Flags in Hawaii", (see at http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/red-flags-in-hawaii-2/ ), a blog post documenting how Hawaii government officials have broken laws and rules in order to cover for Obama.
The Honolulu Advertiser has an article about it. Apparently I can't post anything from the HA because they won't allow it, but it's in an article online today. In it, Okubo claims that she gets about 50 requests/month for Obama's BC.
First off, I call BS on that number. I requested all the UIPA requests involving Obama for a 2-week period and there were 7 requests - only 2 of which were for a BC, and both for a non-certified abbreviated birth certificate, which the Administrative Rules expressly authorize to be released to anybody who asks for it.
Second, I believe this firmly places us in phase 3 of the saying, "First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win."
lol. When I hear “vexatious” I can only think of Mrs. Bennett from “Pride and Prejudice” - gossiping, money-hungry, old biddie.
I would wear “vexatious” as a badge of honor coming from these folks. lol.
Thank you. And I would hope I’d do the same for you. I’d say I definitely would, but the whole saint/sinner dichotomy is all too real to me. lol. Usually I don’t come anywhere close to what I aspire to be and do. I try, most of the time...
Open records laws are a big hassle so we should just do away with them.
God knows, tyrannical communism is the most efficient form of government...
When they are abused, the abusers should be put in their place.
“a word I had to look up.”
*whew* well, it’s a relief to know I wasn’t the only one=)
Stupid bi-ch! Its called a job! At work I get 150 emails a day with 50 requiring written repsonses. This in addition to the other important aspects of my Job. God forbid she can't handle 50 request per month?!! After all, how much effort does it really take to say "request denied"? .
Actually, this legislation flies in the face of ‘public interest,’ in that it seeks to ‘decide’ what exactly the public should be interested in.
Sounds like Fukino even provided the HA a handy list of what we SHOULD be interested in.
“When they are abused, the abusers should be called to account.”
Delay on the server.
I see you panicked and posted this old chestnut twice. Considering how cliché the sentiment is, it really speaks volumes on your self importance.
Funny stuff.
The issue is not that she gets so many requests. The issue is that she gets so many BS requests on this single issue.
When is it ever in the “public interest” to feed the trolls?
Hmmm...
They answered MY questions to my satisfaction. In fact, two OIP attorneys thoughtfully advised me on how to draft my requests for information.
So I don’t know what you are talking about.
I have a feeling you don’t know wtf you are talking about either.
“When is it ever in the public interest to feed the trolls?”
That’s why we have cliches in the first place. They’re usually true.
Beware, beware! Your notification of vexatiousness will soon be sent!
Hmm, if they send it by email or fax, there’s no proof you ever received it. But, of course, they already know that as they’ve practiced that avenue enough. The only way would be to send it certified snail mail to have proof. Of course, they would then have to acknowledge they had indeed received your previous requests which would bring into question why they never replied to them. Vicious circle.
Wonder whom the ombudsman would be hired by? Interestingly, it doesn’t state how many requests would put someone into vexing status - 3, 15, 27, or merely 1 that they don’t wish to deal with? It looks like this grants them the right to do as they wish at any time they wish. For them to go this far, someone is running very, very scared.
I didn’t argue the truth of your simple thinking, I pointed out the simplicity of your simple mindedness; and the urge that you had to see your simple thought appear “on the big screen” was so great and your need to pat yourself on the back for it’s profundity (*ahem* snark) was so strong, that you wrote it twice.
Just in case.
Funny. Funny.=)
Not that I have a particular problem with the truthfulness of your cliché, but it doesn’t add a thing to the conversation. Obviously,declaring a requester ‘vexatious’ is almost entirely subjective. The task is delegated to the OIP Director evidently.
You have accused me of being an ‘abuser’—and I beg to differ. In fact, I don’t know where the h-ll you get off saying something like that. So, this is why they are skating a dangerous line. I find that to be an offensive and slanderous accusation.
If this legislation was in effect during the time I made my own requests, and the OIP were to deliberate whether I was a vexatious requester, I would simply provide the email communications with the very helpful OIP staff with whom I consulted in drafting my requests.
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