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Susan G. Komen and Planned Parenthood: Pro-Life People Should be Warned
Life News ^ | 5/24/10 | Hannah Carter

Posted on 05/24/2010 4:02:25 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: Eagle Eye; FatherofFive
Isn’t it true that Komen finances breast cancer screening at planned parenthood clinics because there are more women who can benefit from the screening there at those clinics than if they set up screening at Pep Boys or the Sears tool section?

Makes perfect sense to me since women that have abortions have an 30% higher chance of Breast Cancer thatn women that don't, and that women that take oral contraceptives also have a higer risk as well.

Makes perfect sense casue the disease in one room and screen for it down the hall, next they need to put in the drive through Masectomy window. /SARC.

21 posted on 05/25/2010 2:32:30 AM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: Eagle Eye
Have you bothered to look at what Komen has to say?

Planned parenthood kills innocent babies, what could Koman possible say that rationalizes that?

Did I mention that Planned parenthood also kills babies?

22 posted on 05/25/2010 2:35:07 AM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: verga

Correlation never, ever proves causation.

Never.

That isn’t denial, just scientific fact.


24 posted on 05/25/2010 5:29:59 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
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To: Eagle Eye; FatherofFive
Correlation never, ever proves causation. Never. That isn’t denial, just scientific fact. There is a 30% increase in the incidence of Breast Cancer in women that have abortions. 2%-5% might be coincidence. 30% yeah that sounds like correlation and Causation. If you have a better explanation other than denial I would be gald to listen to any legitimate alternative theories. And even if Causation has not been proven beyond the shadow of a doubt do you really that it is worth the increased risk? I also noticed that you did not address the issue of Planned parenthood killing children, are you going to claim that there is no correlation between abortion and the death of unborn children?
25 posted on 05/25/2010 6:53:28 AM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: verga

Stop bringing FACTS to the discussion!!!! :P


26 posted on 05/25/2010 6:55:05 AM PDT by Hoosier Catholic Momma (Arkansas resident of Hoosier upbringing--Yankee with a southern twang)
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To: Hoosier Catholic Momma

Mea Culpa, Mea Culpa, Maxa Mea Culpa.


27 posted on 05/25/2010 6:59:10 AM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: verga
Makes perfect sense casue the disease in one room and screen for it down the hall, next they need to put in the drive through Masectomy window. /SARC.

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Good point.

28 posted on 05/25/2010 8:32:10 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: verga
I also noticed that you did not address the issue of Planned parenthood killing children, are you going to claim that there is no correlation between abortion and the death of unborn children?

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Well said.

29 posted on 05/25/2010 8:34:05 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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30 posted on 05/25/2010 8:47:24 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Eagle Eye; redgolum; Desdemona; Hoosier Catholic Momma; Dr. Brian Kopp; metmom; BykrBayb; ...
Isn’t it true that Komen finances breast cancer screening at planned parenthood clinics because there are more women who can benefit from the screening there at those clinics than if they set up screening at Pep Boys or the Sears tool section?

Yes it is true that they say that. However, it's a red herring.

Planned Parenthood would like everyone to believe that they operate TWO businesses:
1. Slaughterhouse.
2. Health clinic for women.

By keeping up this pretense, they get to receive government funding and groups like Komen continue to give them money. The end result is very similar to the "Oil for Food" fiasco we tried with Iraq in the 1990s. Big Murder (aka Planned Parenthood) takes tens of millions of dollars that are designated for non-murderous practices, but all it does is allow them to lower their overhead and keep down the cost of abortions.

As far as the Komen Foundation's claim that the money is for breast cancer screening, that is totally absurd. The ONLY recommended breast exam in women under 40 is a clinical breast exam, but this is little more than the doctor feeling for lumps and doesn't actually cost anything. Mammograms aren't started until a woman is 40, and women over 40 ARE NOT typically going to Planned Parenthood.

The ONLY real connections between Big Murder and breast cancer is that both birth control pills and abortion INCREASE the risk for breast cancer.

31 posted on 05/25/2010 8:59:20 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
As far as the Komen Foundation's claim that the money is for breast cancer screening, that is totally absurd.

You call the Komen foundation liars. Where is your proof?

32 posted on 05/25/2010 9:35:11 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
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To: Eagle Eye; redgolum; Desdemona; Hoosier Catholic Momma; trisham; Dr. Brian Kopp; metmom; ...
You call the Komen foundation liars. Where is your proof?

Where did I call them liars?

The Komen Foundation states that the money it gives to Big Murder cannot be used for abortions, I never questioned the validity of that. I simply stated that donations like this allow Planned Parenthood to cover overhead and keep abortion costs down.

The FACT is that mammograms are not recommended for women under 40 and women over 40 are not typically using Planned Parenthood.

33 posted on 05/25/2010 9:57:35 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

This may be the best post on this topic I have yet read. Gratias ago Vos.


34 posted on 05/25/2010 10:02:42 AM PDT by OriginalChristian (Neutralize In November...)
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To: wagglebee
As far as the Komen Foundation's claim that the money is for breast cancer screening, that is totally absurd

The whole point of your thread to discredit the Komen Foundation with innuendo.

Your claim is that the Komen Foundation supports abortion by funding clinics but you offer no evidence.

http://ww5.komen.org/uploadedFiles/Content/Footer/MediaCenter/planned%20parenthood%20winer-09.pdf

Komen states that their grants are used only consistent with their agreements and only for breast health screening and education and treatment.

Komen says one thing and you say their statements are "absurd", so yes, you are calling the foundation liars.

35 posted on 05/25/2010 2:24:46 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
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To: OriginalChristian; wagglebee

This whole post is disingenuous.

Read the statements from Komen and then come back and tell me that you would prefer that Komen did no type of outreach to women in these clinics.

Komen states that they are not funding abortions yet somehow Y’all are going to twist things and state that they do despite the facts.

Is it possible to disagree with their outreach without trying to smear them?

It would be great if these clinics did not exist. But they do. Komen sees a legitimate need for their services but people like you would make that impossible if you could have your way.


36 posted on 05/25/2010 2:32:31 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
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To: Eagle Eye; redgolum; Desdemona; Hoosier Catholic Momma; OriginalChristian; trisham; ...
The whole point of your thread to discredit the Komen Foundation with innuendo.

No, my goal is to end abortion, and that includes exposing those who are complicit in abortion.

Your claim is that the Komen Foundation supports abortion by funding clinics but you offer no evidence.

Planned Parenthood is the largest abortion provider in the world, they get nearly a million dollars a year from Komen. This allows Big Murder to free up other funds to kill babies. That IS evidence.

Komen states that their grants are used only consistent with their agreements and only for breast health screening and education and treatment.

Yes, they help cover overhead in abortuaries.

Komen says one thing and you say their statements are "absurd", so yes, you are calling the foundation liars.

Can the Komens offer proof that none of the money goes to overhead? If not their claim is absurd.

37 posted on 05/25/2010 3:52:35 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Whatever. You don’t have any proof to refute their published statements but yet require them to prove a negative.

Remember, there are those who view you are pro abortion because in their eyes you don’t do enough. And never will.


38 posted on 05/25/2010 6:17:25 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
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To: wagglebee

Funny how you demand a degree of purity in absolutes that you violate with your innuendo.

Just another hypocrite.


39 posted on 05/25/2010 6:19:32 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
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To: Eagle Eye; FatherofFive
Your claim is that the Komen Foundation supports abortion by funding clinics but you offer no evidence. http://ww5.komen.org/uploadedFiles/Content/Footer/MediaCenter/planned%20parenthood%20winer-09.pdf Komen states that their grants are used only consistent with their agreements and only for breast health screening and education and treatment.

The Majority of Planned parenthoods business is abortion, by their own admission. Even if the Komen money goes soley for breast exams, that frees up other money for them to promote and provide abortion services, therefore indirectly it does fund abortion.

That being said I don't beleive for a single moment that it does go to fund brreast exams. I beleive that it goes into a big old general pot and they take waht they want for whatever they want.

I am still waiting for you to address the fact that Planned Parenthood kills innocent Babies, or don't you see a correlation between abortion and the death of children?

40 posted on 05/26/2010 2:35:15 AM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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