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How does Obama's document stack up against genuine BC?
WND ^ | SEPTEMBER 11, 2011 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 09/12/2011 8:24:50 AM PDT by RobinMasters

A professional typographer with 50 years experience in the business has confirmed that the typeface in an authentic Hawaii Department of Health long-form birth certificate issued in 1961 is consistent, and concludes the document released by the White House as Barack Obama's 1961 birth certificate – with its typeface anomalies – is anything but genuine.

"From the beginning, when I saw that some of the typed letters on the Obama long-form birth certificate did not match for size or style, I found evidence the document was a forgery," retired New York City typographer Paul Irey told WND. "Still, I wanted to see other birth certificates from the same era and from the same office in the state of Hawaii."

The difficulty with that, however, has been that the Hawaii Department of Health in Honolulu has refused to answer requests from various researchers, including WND staff, who have requested permission to see authentic birth certificates immediately preceding and immediately succeeding Obama's for comparative analysis.

And as WND has reported, the Hawaii Department of Health has gone so far as to issue regulations making it difficult for people born in Hawaii and their immediate family members to obtain anything but the short-form Certifications of Live Birth, which are computer-generated and contain no original images.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birther; certifigate; hopespringseternal; naturalborncitizen; obama; thistimeforsure
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To: LucyT

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2777376/posts?page=30#30

are we psoting on TWO threads with the same title?


21 posted on 09/12/2011 10:02:54 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

How does Obama’s document stack up against genuine BC?
World Net Daily ^ | September 11, 2011 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on Tuesday, 13 September 2011 11:33:20 AM by Seizethecarp

How does Obama’s document stack up against genuine BC?
WND ^ | SEPTEMBER 11, 2011 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on Tuesday, 13 September 2011 1:24:50 AM by RobinMasters


22 posted on 09/12/2011 10:06:56 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: LucyT

“Dakkster’s hobby is making up lies about Hussein, and then posting them.”

Could you fill us all in on what lies I’ve posted. Thanks.


23 posted on 09/12/2011 10:09:15 PM PDT by Dakkster
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To: Fred Nerks

Yes, we have duplicate threads on the same article. Fr search feature doesn’t work occasionally.


24 posted on 09/12/2011 10:14:57 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Dakkster

Every time you write that FMD and Madelyn are the parents of zero, I consider that to be a LIE, because you NEVER provide any source links or research background with which to substantiate your statements.

And such statements, made repeatedly BY YOU on EVERY relative thread are either LIES or propaganda.


25 posted on 09/12/2011 10:35:16 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (EVERY)
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To: Kleon
and these are hand-picked to draw attention away from letters that are even more varied

They showed ALL of the letters.
26 posted on 09/13/2011 1:15:37 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Genoa
Nothing will resolve the controversy until Obama’s original, 50-year-old paper document is made available for examination. A scan is useless.
Although a file presented as a scan of an original document can never prove the existence of an authentic original, the detection of anomalies in a computer file presented as a "scan" of an old document can demonstrate that said file is not representative of an old original. Just as Buckhead demonstrated that the "Texas Air National Guard Memos" were not copies of actual old typewritten documents.
Internal consistency of such a "scan file" is not sufficient proof of the existence and validity of an old original - but it isnecessary.
And by all credible analysis, the "scan" file fails even that test.

27 posted on 09/13/2011 3:51:55 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (DRAFT PALIN)
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To: Brown Deer
They showed ALL of the letters.

I'm talking about the two columns that were supposed to compare the variation between the two sets. You're right that he earlier showed all the letters, which is how I know he's full of BS.

Also, it's funny that "race" is redacted. Another "African" perhaps?

28 posted on 09/13/2011 6:00:27 AM PDT by Kleon
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To: Kleon

Sounds like you are both racist and full of BS.


29 posted on 09/13/2011 6:30:57 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

You have no idea what you’re talking about.


30 posted on 09/13/2011 7:03:09 AM PDT by Kleon
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To: Kleon

The characters are all there. Go ahead and prove him wrong. We’ll be anxiously awaiting for you to post the details.


31 posted on 09/13/2011 7:19:39 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: LucyT

32 posted on 09/13/2011 8:01:43 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Dakkster; bitt; Fred Nerks; Brown Deer; mojitojoe; melancholy

What’s uncannily transparent is noobs who show up on FR insisting on seeing a striking resemblance between Zero and FMD when not only is there no resemblance whatsoever, but if anything, even less than there is with Zero and the Kenyan 0bama.

It’s obvious that some people desperately want people to think that FMD is the bio-dad because then Zero would be a NBC. A liar, but we know that, but a NBC. Or maybe lied to, or whatever backstory they have waiting in the wings.

Well, FMD has a son, and DNA would tell the truth so there’s really no mystery.

It’s laughably stupid to keep insisting that Zero and FMD have any familial resemblance whatsoever. Who are we supposed to believe, you or our lying eyes?

Give me a break.


33 posted on 09/13/2011 8:13:53 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Fred Nerks
Lies and propaganda! IOW, not a mere silly fixation, lies with a purpose.
34 posted on 09/13/2011 8:17:13 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Brown Deer
The characters are all there. Go ahead and prove him wrong. We’ll be anxiously awaiting for you to post the details.

Inconsistencies that he previously used as evidence for the Obama certificate being a forgery are present in the comparison certificate, even though he claims they're "consistent in size and style."

There are numerous examples, but here are just two:

1. In his original analysis, he posited that the i's in Obama's birth certificate were different, because there was more space between the dot and the letter in some examples. The same thing can be seen in the comparison birth certificate.

2. Also in his original analysis of the Obama certificate, he measured the width of the horizontal lines in letters and said different lengths were impossible using the same typewriter. However, even on the letters he claims are consistent on the comparison birth certificate, there are different widths. For example, the bottom lines of the l's he used on Exhibit 4.

35 posted on 09/13/2011 8:56:33 AM PDT by Kleon
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To: Kleon
The same thing can be seen in the comparison birth certificate.

False.

However, even on the letters he claims are consistent on the comparison birth certificate, there are different widths. For example, the bottom lines of the l's he used on Exhibit 4.

False.

You have no idea what you’re talking about.
36 posted on 09/13/2011 9:08:57 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Fred Nerks

“because you NEVER provide any source links or research background with which to substantiate your statements”

Whose the one lying now?

“Every time you write that FMD and Madelyn are the parents of zero, I consider that to be a LIE,”

All you have to do discredit the ‘FMD & Madeline’ hypothesis is post any evidence/observations to the contrary.


37 posted on 09/13/2011 10:07:25 AM PDT by Dakkster
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To: RobinMasters
WND updated this page with a new version of the comparison birth certificate with just about everything redacted, even the name of the registrar. Maybe Corsi remembered he's still going with the "Ukulele is the forger's signature joke" story.

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=292717

38 posted on 09/13/2011 12:54:56 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: Kleon; RobinMasters; LucyT; Fred Nerks
looks old to me.

Posted: April 28, 2011

Maybe Corsi remembered he's still going with the "Ukulele is the forger's signature joke" story.

Dr. Corsi has known for quite some time that the signature belongs to Verna Kin Len (Sue) Lee, who was born in 1917. I believe that he may have even contacted her.
39 posted on 09/13/2011 1:34:45 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer
Dr. Corsi has known for quite some time that the signature belongs to Verna Kin Len (Sue) Lee, who was born in 1917.

Perhaps, but he never corrected his earlier story, so I have to assume they're trying to keep their readers believing this, which explains why they would redact the name of the registrar. There's really no other reason to block that out.

Speaking of redacted information, WND really dropped the ball here. The original image of the reverse side they posted had all the text bleeding through, so you could see the birth certificate number, which they blocked out on the other side. When you compare this number to Obama's it's obvious why they blocked it out--despite being born two weeks after Obama, the person's birther certificate has a lower number, defeating one of the main arguments for Obama's being fake.

40 posted on 09/13/2011 2:43:25 PM PDT by Kleon
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