There is no doubt in my mind that the more veterans there are in a bureaucracy — the more incompetent the career bureaucrats will be revealed to be.
gotta side with the veterans
No, I have no proof, just knowledge of the creep's pattern of behavior over the past 6 years. Americans are p*ssed at his neglect of the VA system even while US soldiers have been suffering disproportionate casualties in Afghanistan due to his ROE.
As a vet who was also a DAC (Department of the Army Civilian) I can tell you that the majority of civilian employees are competent but perhaps not overly ambitious. However, there are about 10% who seem to take joy in making others miserable. Either by trying to be a regulation bully or by finding every possible way to do the least amount of work and remain employed.
It got to the point I could not stand it and left for the civilian workforce. I have never looked back.
Caucasian veterans need not apply
Veterans have always (for many decades) had hiring preference. That is written into the personnel regs. I don’t think Obama has anything to do with it. Perhaps what has changed is that there are a larger number of vets entering the workforce, post retirement/separation.
Vets - Hardworking, qualified, efficient, competent, loyal, honest, committed people who got their jobs on merit
“civil servants” - lazy, unqualified, inefficient, incompetent , corrupt political hacks who got their jobs via patronage or via make work jobfare
If there were a greater demand for workers in the private sector, those lucrative government jobs wouldn’t be in as great of a demand by employable people.
Now we have a bunch of people who call our vendors morning, noon, and night to fix their problems. They constantly in-fight. They withold and do not share important information in favor of keeping it to themselves so they can step in and play the hero syndrome. It's a mess.
The existing manufacturing lines and processes operate just fine and without problems.
Just a real case example I've experienced. Some of the veterans are great and I would retain them if it was my call. The rest you could put on the first thing making smoke which leaves town. They are no different than regular pools of employees.
Funny stuff. I love it. The career bureaucrats are feeling the heat of competition and they do not like it one little bit.
Don’t these dolts realize this is affirmative action ... in action?
No military experience here (which some sick FReepers believe mean that I shouldn’t be permitted to talk about our military), but I have worked with a lot of military veterans, and they are, almost always, AWESOME! Serious as hell, organized as hell, and just great people. I even had the unfortunate experience of having one as a friend in college - there was NO WAY I could keep up with him...he got all the good job offers. He was a SERIOUS student.
I’m sure that Pajama Boy would do a great job, too.(/sarc)
Veterans preference has been around forever. Dislike of the military has been around forever..
I am a White Vet, 70+ or like RR said 24 celcius.
As a rule, I believe in ‘merit’ hiring with a few exceptions.
Possibly Affirmative Action may have had a little merit in regards to quality of education and other little hidden things up through the 50s and 60s.
Of course, when the other ‘working’ class ethnic people ‘moved up’ a stage, it was basically done on their own.
I will not be so naive to not admit that a job or two I may have gotten because I was White and could put a couple of sentences together -I may not have been the most ‘qualified’ candidate but my Gender, Ethnicity added to being a Vet made me hirable.
I did believe in the VA Loan for a house for Vets seeing how a lot of us were serving and getting a step or two behind as to job seniority and earning ability.
And all that did was VA would guarantee the loan and a down payment could be waived.
I never took advantage of the GI Bill for college.
Very glad I already retired from the federal government.