Posted on 06/09/2015 6:58:33 AM PDT by HomerBohn
Pope Francis's concerns about global warming and climate change are outside his expertise and may not be taken seriously by practicing Catholics, says Bill Donohue, president of the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights.
"I don't care whether it's Pope Francis or his predecessors or his successors someday. Once you get outside the domain, of faith and morals, be careful and be careful particularly when you get into the weeds and get very specific," Donohue said Monday on "The Steve Malzberg Show" on Newsmax TV.
(Watch video at link.)
"For example, are we God's stewards? Are we supposed to take care of the Earth? Of course, that's out of the Old Testament, it's out of the New Testament, it's totally unobjectionable.
"Now we might get a little bit more specific, but the more specific you become on something like this, well what happens is Catholics will scratch their head and say, well he's a very nice man."
Francis is expected to release an encyclical — a teaching document — warning about the dangers of climate change and how mankind must pay attention to it by the end of June.
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What you say makes sense, Gumdrop.
Exactly.
Yep, these fake battles of ‘Catholics against the popular culture’, rings hollow when you realize that the church’s leadership appears to like the actual Catholic vote, just where it is.
You can see it in the way that the Catholic democrat, political party leadership, is honored.
As usual, Mrs. DO, you haven’t missed a thing.
Or have you?
Wait, we have 21 days to pay attention to the dangers? Then what?
Hence Jesus' promises are void.
Hence the Gates of Hell have prevailed.
That doesn't seem likely to me, since the Church had even longer stretches of of even worse popes at certain periods over the last 1,000 years or more, which apparently still left the Church intact enough to have produced Pope Pius XII.
Also, we have had some bright, grace-filled signs of the Holy Spirit's supervision of the Church in my lifetime. Or do you not think Humanae Vitae is valid?
Good to know, waiting....
Used to the Pope being the spiritual center of the universe on the earthly material plane.
In my early childhood, I was impressed with the ability to reject the secular and material world in favor of the more important spiritual world.
I was taught that you must have a calling in order to join the monks in their devotion, if you weren’t called you shouldn’t go because that in itself is evil deception. I didn’t feel called, but I had the most respect of those who were.
When I was young, the monks, deacons, and priests had as much mystic as any modern Hindu type religion, they were disciplined and rejected the secular world.
What ever happened to the Church of old, the God Inspired Philosophers of Truth over Fact.
It was destroyed, by degrees, due to Vatican II which ultimately established a new religion based on humankind.
His Instruction to maintain God's Church was voided by a gaggle of Satan-inspired phony clergy.
I don’t think anything or anyone can void Jesus’ promises. Certainly not sinful men.
Mrs. Don. Wouldn’t you agree that today’s excuse for the Roman Catholic Church is even worse than on life support? The rubrics, the liturgy, how one looks at sin today is completely changed.
The entire homosexual mess in the priesthood was a Satan-inspired attempt to destroy Catholicism.
Look at the newer constructed churches today where behind the altar that faces the people, there is a cross with Jesus clearly risen. The rule was that a Christ crucified was supposed to grace every altar. Then there’s the way communion is handled by many before it’s placed in the hands of communicants. Then there’s the girl altar boys.
The Catholic Church worked. It pleased Jesus as all congregants took what was to happen there most seriously.
The tabernacle is not placed at the center of the altar, rather it’s either in a side room or relegated to either the far left or right inconspicuously.
I could go on and on with the irreverent singing and strumming of guitars and banjos, the fact that before the new ‘service’ begins everyone chats in loud tones.
There is so much that has been radically changed and this is especially noticeable in the Vatican.
Falsehoods do not help your credibility, HomerBohn.
And not owning up to the truth doesn’t help your credibility one iota, Mrs. Keep up your pro-pope and Vatican II support, but eventually you’ll just be another humanist whistling as they ass the graveyard.
Are you really so naïve as to think that siding with the New World Government eco gaggle that the Vatican isn’t joining with the scum of abortionists, huge government and control of births?
List a falsehood, don’t just throw a rock!
HomerBohn and All: Though this is from the Catechism of the Catholic Church (LINK), it's still true. :o)
HomerBohn, I'm following this up with some particulars.
Respect for the reputation of persons forbids every attitude and word likely to cause them unjust injury. He becomes guilty:
- of rash judgment who, even tacitly, assumes as true, without sufficient foundation, the moral fault of a neighbor;
- of detraction who, without objectively valid reason, discloses another's faults and failings to persons who did not know them;
- of calumny who, by remarks contrary to the truth, harms the reputation of others and gives occasion for false judgments concerning them.
To avoid rash judgment, everyone should be careful to interpret insofar as possible his neighbor's thoughts, words, and deeds in a favorable way:
Every good Christian ought to be more ready to give a favorable interpretation to another's statement than to condemn it. But if he cannot do so, let him ask how the other understands it. And if the latter understands it badly, let the former correct him with love. If that does not suffice, let the Christian try all suitable ways to bring the other to a correct interpretation so that he may be saved..
Detraction and calumny destroy the reputation and honor of one's neighbor. Honor is the social witness given to human dignity, and everyone enjoys a natural right to the honor of his name and reputation and to respect. Thus, detraction and calumny offend against the virtues of justice and charity.
Your posting sounds a great deal like this central socialist government labeling those who disagree against the junk science of ‘Global Warming’ as criminals.
What this posting of part of the ‘new’ ‘revised’ catechism of the Catholic Church has to do with my comments about the evil inherent in Vatican II is not mystifying. Rather, it’s an example of a die-hard proponent of this new religion whose head is a man who not only has a socialist revolutionary background and sympathies, but is willing to join the enemies of Christianity in their global desires.
In the eyes of Christians it is this newest pope, along with the complicit church hierarchy that has committed sinful acts.
Those who stand idly by are the sinners.
Does that shoe fit you?
"Evil pope" - This is rash judgment.
Applying the word "evil" to speech or policies or actions is morally necessary: it's judging objective things. But in contrast, applying it to a named person makes it a judgment on their interior disposition, which is something you can't know unless the person tells you.
For instance, a person may write something that is an objectively false, but it would be unjust to label this person a "liar" if it is possible they were innocently mistaken, or they were given misinformation by a lying advisor, or they were misquoted, or you misinterpreted what they said.
HomerBohn: "[Pope Francis] sides with abortionists, homosexuals... and eradication of a portion of the world's population." This is calumny.
Pope Francis has never spoken, written or acted in favor of murdering babies before they are born, engaging in sodomitical vice, or killing off people by any means whatsoever.
"Sides with" means "agrees with". It does not mean listening to but not agreeing or cooperating with an evil project. For instance, Ban Ki-Moon and Jeffrey Sachs are involved with such evil policies as contraception, abortion, and population control, but I have never seen Pope Francis speak or act in formal cooperation with those wicked policies.
On the contrary, Pope Francis has spoken out frequently against these evils, and I have seen indications that he will do so again in his upcoming encyclical Laudato Sii.
The following link-list is not a "balanced" list of everything the Pope has been saying, but rather a "balancing" list. I'm trying to supply needed perspective by providing links to material that is rarely or never highlighted by Sedevacantist blogosphere and the Left EneMedia.
Any discussion of the strange convergence of interests between the Sedevacantist media and the Left EneMedia is something I'll have to save for a later date.
LINKS:
Pope Francis Tells Couples To Wait Until Marriage To Have Sex
Pope Francis: Gender Theory Is a Threat to Society
Pope: Marriage between man and woman is threatened by gender ideology
Pope Francis: “Children have a ‘Right’ to a Mother and Father”
The Closed Door of Pope Francis (Speaks against abortion, divorce, and homosexuality)
Pope Francis: marriage inscribed in creation (Man/Woman)
Pope Francis and the family, the next step (pro-Traditional Family)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3282410/posts>Pope Francis is starting to look a lot like Sarah Palin (Guardian UK dumps Francis) Pope Rejected Gay French Diplomat as Ambassador to Holy See
A Letter to Pope Francis (Pope defends man-woman marriage)
Pope Rejects ‘So-Called Gender Theory’
Pope Francis 'refuses' gay French ambassador
Kasper is Not the 'Pope's Theologian,' Says Leading African Cardinal
Cardinal Burke Denies Rift With Pope, Warns of ‘Gay Agenda’ for Synod
Pope Francis condemns gender theory a third time: ‘The family is under attack’
Pope Francis defends church’s opposition to artificial contraception
Pope Francis Defends Human Nature Against Gender Radicals
Pope's Shocking Hitler Youth Comparison (Pope blasts gender theory)
Pope Francis: ‘The Choice To Not Have Children Is Selfish’
Pope declares couples who don’t want kids ‘selfish,’ says they are part of a ‘greedy generation’
Pope Francis on abortion: ‘Never, never does killing a person resolve a problem’
Bringing children into the world is never a ‘mistake’: Pope Francis
Don’t be afraid to have more children: Pope Francis
Pope Francis supports Slovak effort to ban gay ‘marriage’, adoption
Pope to Catholic couples: you can’t get married if you’re not open to children
Pope Francis praises Humanae Vitae, warns of attacks on family
It’s obvious.
We don’t belong to the same Church.
Francis is ready join the eco-freaks and NWO types.
I am a sedevacantist; you’re believe in the new religion and are obviously actively involved with it.
Members of His Body, branches attached to the True Vine.
Consider the case of an Augustinian priest, Martin Luther, who went down to Rome just after the papacy of the most notorious pope in history, Pope Alexander VI.
This pope was simply a wicked man. He had nine children from six different concubines. He put out assassination contracts against those he considered his enemies. Martin Luther visited Rome just after Alexander VI's papacy and wondered how God could allow such a wicked man to be the visible head of his Church. He went back to Germany and saw all types of moral problems. Priests were "in bed with" sensuality, wealth and power. Some were trying to profit from selling spiritual goods. There was a terrible immorality among lay Catholics. Father Luther was scandalized, as anyone who loved God might have been, by such rampant abuse. So he split from the Church.
Eventually God raised up many saints to combat this wrong solution and to bring people back to the Church Christ founded. St. Francis de Sales was one of them. At the risk of his life, he went through parts of what is now Switzerland, where the Calvinists were popular, preaching the Gospel with truth and love. Oftentimes he was beaten up on his way and left for dead. Once he was asked to address the situation of the scandal caused by so many of his brother priests.
He said, "Those who commit these types of scandals are guilty of the spiritual equivalent of murder," destroying other people's faith in God by their terrible example. But then he warned his listeners, "But I'm here among you to prevent something far worse for you. While those who give scandal are guilty of the spiritual equivalent of murder, those who take scandal, who allow scandals to destroy their faith, are guilty of spiritual suicide."
I'm here to preach the same thing to you. I sincerely admonish you not to cut yourself off, despite whatever scandals may abound. To repeat: to give scandal is the sin of spiritual murder; to take scandal is the sin of spiritual suicide.
That is your opinion, correct?
Since when did you become the decision maker of papal knowledge?
I thought that was God’s job.
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