Posted on 01/12/2017 5:17:18 PM PST by PeteePie
Military airport near Damascus bombed. Suspected holding ammunition depots for Hezbollah. Developing, see the feed. Syrian media attributing to Israel. In before Drudge.
>You think Israel is more worried about protecting Russian soldiers than protecting Israel?
Not killing Russian soldiers is protecting Israel. Israel has enough enemies in the area and they don’t need to make one of the 3ed strongest military power in the world.
>Or do you think Israel needs to ask Putin for permission to protect Israel?
Israel’s attack on Syria is an act of war. If you’re going to flagrantly commit acts of war then it pays to make sure that you only hit the terrorist group and not the parties who are not at war with you. Thus working out an understanding benefits everyone.
>And Russians have been killed before without Putin acting. Why do you think he doesn’t honestly report about his solders killed fighting for abroad for his empire? Poor soldier died in a training accident...in Ukraine, or in Syria.
For the same reason we report special forces deaths as training accidents. Plausible deniability.
>Putin will protect his soldiers if he wants to. He’ll not avenge them if he doesn’t want to. He’s not exactly accountable on these subjects.
Putin wouldn’t last 5 minutes in Russia if he lost public support. Someone would remove him and take over just as it happen to Yeltsin. Russia’s not a terror state on the lines of the old soviet union and public opinion or rather the mandate of heaven very much matters to the Russian government.
Putin does protect his men. After the Turks shot down that Russian bomber last year Putin carpet bombed all the villages of Turkmons living in Syria for months. Turkey got the message that if you kill one of ours, we’ll kill hundreds of yours thus protecting the rest of his air force pilots.
Beats me. I'm just a keyboard noticer. I know they're good at juicing up our stuff for their own needs.
You admit that Russia uses plausible and yet you aver, based on your experience I'm sure, that they always avenge their fallen. If they deny those who died, how do you know that they follow through with the vengeance you assert?
It's funny too how you claim what Israel did to protect itself is an act of war while you don't see what Putin does in Ukraine as one. Hmmm.
“My point was to make clear that the statement in post #20 (”If someone is coming to kill you, rise against him and kill him first.”) is not found in the Old Testament (or in the New) as some might have wrongly assumed.”
It IS Torah, which multiple people explained to you. That’s where that statement comes from.
All the laws this country has regarding self-defense — where do you think they originate from? Are speed limits in the US Constitution? Is telling your kids to be in bed by 9PM in your bible?
Everything is online for everyone to see. http://www.sefaria.org/explore is just one example.
Supposedly ISIS bombed the airline over the Sinai, Egypt, the soda pop bomb; and so Putin went after whom? ISIS or the Rebels. Russia's response to ISIS seems rather limited. Are ISIS still in Palmyra? Hard to find solid sources saying no.
Most rural Americans probably hate Russians, as well.
I've personally spent weeks at a time living with multiple Russian families in Moscow and Ryazan. They are more similar to us than you can imagine. I didn't pick up on any hate. Where they are noticeably different, is that they were smashed by the government and unable to communicate with outsiders or express themselves with foreigners (until now.) The average person over there is very similar to us in thinking, appearance, etc.
But you did get the racist part correct.
Can someone explain, in like three sentences, what is going on here? Why, who, what and how?
>It’s funny too how you claim what Israel did to protect itself is an act of war while you don’t see what Putin does in Ukraine as one. Hmmm.
I know the international law hard for you, but lets review the facts: The Ukraine had a coup that overthrew the legitimately elected government. The president of the country fled to Russia for protection. The fighting in the east was all against the illegitimate coup government and their neo-nazi allies who were attacking Russian speakers in the east in order ethnic cleanse them from the Ukraine. Under international law it’s the coup government in Kiev that’s making war on the remainder of the legitimate Ukrainian government. The fact that the lawless Obama administration has chosen to ignore US law that makes it illegal for us to aid or recognize coup government doesn’t change that.
Why you continue to advocate for Neo-Nazi’s coupists is quite beyond me.
On the other hand Israel bombed a nation that it’s not at war with to stop the transfer of arms to a group they are at war with. That’s an act of war under international law. But it’s an act that will not start a war because Israel worked about a deal with the Russians and Syrians about such matters.
Documentary about the inception of the IAF. Pretty cool.
“What, again?”
(Take off on the US Secy of Def to the Soviet Ambassador in “Red October” when the ambassador reported losing contact with another Soviet sub).
Sometimes it is the obvious
#36/ Calling Sidney Blumenthal’s son Max “a foreign affairs expert” is like calling Obama a Mark Levin conservative. Ain’t never gonna happen.
Little Max is a psycho, self-hating Jew (if he ever considered himself to be Jewish, which I doubt). There was a story that even the German Communist Party told him to get lost when he went to either seek their help or to help them in politics. They considered him to be batshit crazy and they are right.
I don’t know anyone who is sane, from the right to the left, that trusts this weirdo on anything. And that says a lot about Blumenthal. He’s poisonous to all his writings infect.
Go Israel.
I’m sure 0bama will be out condemning Israel by 9:00pm
“While these may be considered to be on equal footing with the written Torah among many Jews, they are not considered to be so among Christians.”
Speak for yourself, not all Christians because you’re decidedly among a minority.
Eretz Yisrael is beholden to Torah. Torah = The Law. The Law says you have a right to defend yourself against those who wish to destroy you. For example, if there’s trucks filled with chemical weapons headed to a known state sponsored terrorist group positioned on your border, The Law fully supports the decision to destroy those trucks.
The Law doesn’t prevent discussion with other nations about these actions, nor does The Law state you have to tell the world the reasons behind these actions.
I’ll check it out. :)
Since the invasion, the Nazi KGG thug Putin has continued to wage war on the Ukranian people causing an internal displacement of 1.7 million people. Russian solder are killed in Ukraine and yet the Nazi Putin won't admit their deaths. I know you like him, but he is a pig.
And again, you make assertions that are not substantiate. How do you know that Israel made a deal with the Nazi Putin? Do you have evidence? No, you don't. You just say things and if they makes sense to you, then they're true.
Assad is just a tinpot dictator. He may come out on top, but he's no more legitimate than the dictator of North Korea. He's been elected by no one. His daddy appointed him dictator, like Kim Jong-un. So Assad is legitimate to you and the Nazi Putin, but not to those who think rulers must rule by consent. To you Poroshenko is a neo-Nazi because he opposes the real Nazi, Putin.
More than likely I experienced the equivalent of some anti-American leftist talking bad about red state America while in Russia.
However one of my Russian conversations was with an actual super model - I believed everything she told me and more - oh yes, yes I did.
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>> “The following law in the Torah (derived from Deuteronomy 22:26): Habah l’hargecha hashkem l’hargo — “If someone is coming to kill you, rise against him and kill him first.” <<
Nonsense!
I checked this in both the KJV, and the JPS Tanakh to be sure there was no conflict.
Neither text offers anything close to what you have posted.
Both speak of a man lying with an engaged virgin, and the subject is solely whether the man, or both should be stoned, depending on the conditions of their surroundings.
There is nothing there WRT someone coming to murder you.
That sounds like the adversary speaking through one of his Rabbis, not the word of YHVH.
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Thank you for the correction.
I don’t have a vested interest in this other than to always want the truth revealed in such matters.
I do approve of Israel taking preemptive measures when it deems the need.
It should not be a common occurrence, but as problems arise, it must be done > IMO.
If multiple dire threats arise, it may have to be more common at tomes.
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