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Trumpís MOAB Drop Triggered A Tweet You Need to Read
nationalreview.com ^ | April 13, 2017 | DAVID FRENCH

Posted on 04/13/2017 11:05:24 PM PDT by Helicondelta

I want you to read this tweet, sent after today’s MOAB drop and written by an American patriot and a man I’m privileged to know, Johnny (Joey) Jones:

"I lost my legs because my gov't was afraid to use the tools they had and saw me as expendable. I wish I'd had this admin."

"We begged to use bombs on the minefield ghost town I lost my legs clearing."

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By the way, I quote these tweets not to spark any anger against the man Jones is addressing, Daniel Riley (who’s also a vet and amputee; he lost his legs to an IED in Afghanistan), but to highlight an important and painful point about our almost 16-year-long war. Excessive American caution has cost American lives and American limbs, and it has left families and friends of the victims with deep psychological wounds. Those wounds would be grievous enough in the best circumstances, but they’re compounded by the fact that many of the decisions not to shoot, not to use artillery, or not to drop bombs were based on a combination of rules of engagement and military misjudgments that were transparently foolish at the time.

To understand what our men in the field faced, you have to understand just a bit about the legal and command superstructure. First, the law of war defines the limits of military force in any context. They’re designed to place outer boundaries on the conduct of any force in the field, not just America and its allies. In practice, however, only America and its allies comply with the law of war.

Second, rules of engagement place an additional restriction on the use of force. The rules can’t be broader than the laws of war, only narrower. In Iraq and Afghanistan,

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1 posted on 04/13/2017 11:05:24 PM PDT by Helicondelta
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To: Helicondelta

The Obama doctrine was that we have to make war more fair to the enemy. We can’t use overwhelming force because that might make them mad.


2 posted on 04/13/2017 11:11:56 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Helicondelta

MOAB and Tomahawk were both a heads-up for the norks.


3 posted on 04/13/2017 11:12:17 PM PDT by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: Helicondelta

I do not understand today’s leaders. If you go to war make sure the enemy loses their lives not ours. It should be all out or nothing at all.


4 posted on 04/13/2017 11:17:25 PM PDT by Chgogal (I will NOT submit, therefore, Jihadists hate me.)
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To: Helicondelta

I just heard a general, Keane I think, say that now the military doesn’t have to get approval for an action from a 30 yr old in the White House. He said the MOAB was exactly the right bomb to use for this situation and Trump is letting the generals make such decisions.


5 posted on 04/13/2017 11:29:26 PM PDT by Aria (2017: Stay strong POTUS - the left lost control of trillions & will do anything to regain power.)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

The Obama doctrine was to make the enemy more powerful on the battlefield- against the Goliath USA-


6 posted on 04/13/2017 11:45:03 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: Aria

War directed from the faculty lounge - lovely


7 posted on 04/13/2017 11:46:20 PM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever)
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To: Helicondelta

Excessive American caution has cost American lives and American limbs, and it has left families and friends of the victims with deep psychological wounds. >>>>>>>>>>

Obama was really a traitor. His ROE were horrid. No soldier should be forced to serve under such a wanton traitor.

On top of all that Obama committed war crimes in Libya.


8 posted on 04/13/2017 11:49:45 PM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Helicondelta

“Rules of engagement” my ass. Obama wasn’t on our side in the war against Wahabi Islam. Isn’t it obvious by now? Why are so many afraid to say it?


9 posted on 04/13/2017 11:54:15 PM PDT by Junk Silver (Hey Bill and Hillary - don't worry about Sessions. Some animals are still more equal than others.)
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To: Helicondelta

God bless Johnny (Joey) Jones.


10 posted on 04/13/2017 11:56:35 PM PDT by onyx (Donate Monthly ~ Join 300 Club!)
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To: Helicondelta

....it will be ten times more dividing this time around. The media,the DNC,Hollywood,the
campus’s will all turn against the military.
They’ll stigmatized, marginalized, all they
can.....they have nothing else.
This era will be interesting for sure
Thanks to Odungo, the
....enemy is here already


11 posted on 04/14/2017 12:23:16 AM PDT by Doogle (( USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: Doogle

Not only the US. Everytime Israel is forced to fight the Hamas or Hezbollah they have to take on their kid gloves not to anger the leftists at home or abroad. The “liberal faction” is an enemy that costs many lives.


12 posted on 04/14/2017 12:32:57 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: Aria

I don’t think the generals have been making the decisions since Reagan...I think the biggest problem the last 28 years has ben the white house micro managing the military. which is the same problem we had before Reagan.


13 posted on 04/14/2017 12:50:45 AM PDT by PCPOET7 (in)
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14 posted on 04/14/2017 2:02:09 AM PDT by maddog55 (America Rising)
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To: PCPOET7

Thank God Almighty that the adults are back in charge. It is true the ROE’s have been stripped since the time of Reagan. Daddy Bush started it when Powell came whining to him about the media showing what we were doing to eradicate the bassturds fleeing Kuwait on the road to Basra.

Stormin Norman had the entire fleeing Republican Guard double flamked on the road to Nasiriya and about to unleash Hell on them with the 24th Mechanized to the south and the 82nd Airborne Assault to the north all with A-10 support. Bush stopped it all when CNN started to show the Basra footage.

If only for 24 to 48 hours free reign, the second war in Iraq would have never been necessary. Hussein would have lost it all. To make matters worse, Bush gave them their helos back and that is how they squashed the uprisings that kept him in power.


15 posted on 04/14/2017 2:07:49 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: Helicondelta

Operation Redwings which took the life of hero Lt !Michael Murphy, went bad because of someone’s asinine ROE decision in the field. Marcus Luttrell was the only survivor in his unit.

Our wars have been run by a bunch of pin head lawyers. President Trump put generals in charge, but not the politician kind, the war fighter kind. And it shows.


16 posted on 04/14/2017 2:19:39 AM PDT by jazminerose (Adorable Deplorable)
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To: jazminerose

May the voters that put that Kenyan son of a bitch in the White House for eight years rot in hell. Every last one of them.


17 posted on 04/14/2017 2:24:15 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.com)
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To: Doogle

Drop a MOAB on the Washington Post.


18 posted on 04/14/2017 2:32:22 AM PDT by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton)
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To: who knows what evil?

I can’t disagree with you. It was bad enough that they were so reckless the first time. But to have voted for Obama a *second* time—unforgivable.


19 posted on 04/14/2017 2:33:49 AM PDT by jazminerose (Adorable Deplorable)
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To: Chgogal

“I do not understand today’s leaders.”

Fifty years ago it was okay to kill the enemy. But the press was entirely different then. Now, no matter what you do, the press will come up with an angle that is damaging to the decision maker. So, decision makers try to come up with decisions the press will support. As long as you are a Democrat the press will ignore casualties on either side.


20 posted on 04/14/2017 2:37:55 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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