Posted on 07/21/2017 7:19:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
1,000 years from now archeologists will wonder why all these folks just buried themselves standing upright in long straight rows out in West Texas, like they were holding up Fence Posts... and they all had California ID.
Californicators in Texas, that is just Weird huh?
In 2000 I owned a 300k house in Round Rock, Texas. The taxes were $7000. The taxes today on that home are over $10,000.
Today I own a 300K house in Murrieta, California. The taxes are only $1500.
And, by the way the California house has much more potential for appreciation.
I think I will stick with California because Texans don’t have the right to petition to put any tax reform on the ballot.
Thanks God for Proposition 13 and Howard Jarvis!
No, I do not think Texas is it either. Try Arkansas
I believe you are right. That is why Texas needs to #TEXIT NOW and do some weeding
One of the reasons why I never want to live anywhere else but Oklahoma.
Amen. Second it. Put that garbage to curb.
Actually, she’s out; black liberal Democrat dude is mayor of Houston now.
I see what you did there. : )
CalTexan wrote:
“In 2000 I owned a 300k house in Round Rock, Texas. The taxes were $7000. The taxes today on that home are over $10,000.
Today I own a 300K house in Murrieta, California. The taxes are only $1500.
And, by the way the California house has much more potential for appreciation.
I think I will stick with California because Texans don’t have the right to petition to put any tax reform on the ballot.
Thanks God for Proposition 13 and Howard Jarvis!”
When did you buy the house in Murrieta ?
Sorry, I’ve seen it happen too many times. Many areas of the South have been destroyed by outsiders coming in determined to
“improve” things. Frankly, it’s not enough for them to consider themselves conservatives. Texans have a right to preserve their traditions and ways of life. People need to recognize where they’re not wanted and not force themselves and their ways on others. As I said, it’s different if they actually want to blend in, but that’s often not the case regardless of their politics. Call that “stuck up” if you wish; I consider it defending values, traditions, and people that I believe are worth defending.
When we first moved to the Olympia/Tumwater/Lacey area we learned about the hazards of leaving Cali plates on cars. ESC was crazy back then (mid 90s) and its only gotten worse. The Left Coast is screwed.
I lived in Tucson in the ‘80s...
Nice and friendly, then,
Now a liberal “think TThen,
My sights are Sierra Vista or
Tombstone.
TThen!?!
What Was I thinking?
TANK...THINK TANK.
So let me get this straight. Even if a person shares your politics and values, you don’t want them moving to your state if they’re not a native Texan? All because you fear that even your own kind might try to “change” things?
Well, I’m a conservative refugee from California. I moved my family and business here to Texas a dozen years ago. Far as I can tell, I haven’t forced any californiacation on anyone.
Matter of fact, Texas felt like a natural fit from day one, but who knows. I might flip out and start trying to californicate the place at any time. Maybe y’all should deport me and my kin back to Cali just to be safe.
Man, yours is about the most extreme case of paranoia I’ve seen in a long time.
Oh wait...I see you’re in Florida, not Texas. Same deal. I’m sure you’d prefer me and my conservative patriot kin stay out of your state, lest we pollute the sacred purity of your culture.
Too bad you have no choice in the matter. Florida is the biggest magnet for liberals in the country. And there you sit, wanting to keep conservative reinforcements out.
Good luck with that strategy.
Congratulations. Excellent job at distorting what I wrote.
I already explained twice, I have no problem with people who come and want to blend in and not “improve” the place according to their own clearly different values and cultural preferences. You seem to be saying that you fit the bill, so I don’t see why you are going out of your way to argue with me. Talk about paranoia.
Forgive me if I don’t ignore that a lot of what’s considered “conservative” in blue-state America is at best moderate by Southern conservative standards. Why is it so bad, as I did, to distinguish between true conservatives who move to a place to blend in and faux conservatives who move to a place to radically change it? Clearly, you’re very sensitive on the issue because of your own circumstances, but please refrain from pushing any more of your straw man arguments at me.
In 2010, a foreclosure for 78K on a 10,000sf lot.
The house in Round Rock has very slowly appreciated since 2000.
People need to recognize where they’re not wanted and not force themselves and their ways on others. As I said, it’s different if they actually want to blend in, but that’s often not the case regardless of their politics.
It's pretty clear to me that you're a paranoid, isolated sort, who's withdrawn into a kind of cocooned existence, resisting communication or contact with anyone you perceive to be different from your fixed perception of what's 'normal'.
What's really laughable, or even pitiable, is that you even have a purity scale of conservatism. Midwest, left coast, or northeastern conservatives are suspect in your book, unless they keep their heads down and "blend in".
Wow, is all I can say. It's gotta suck to be you. Can't even trust your own compatriots because, "They ain't from around here."
Friend, that sort of mindset is guaranteed to bring you misery. No place stays the same. You're going to have new neighbors whether you like it or not. Some of them will sharply differ from you politically and culturally. Some will not. Wisdom lies in appreciating the difference between them, and having the good sense to befriend those who are your natural allies.
Good luck.
Instead of lashing out at you in the ways you have at me, I will just assume that someone make you feel very unwelcome, and you are just inadvertently taking it out on me, so I’ll try to be understanding of what’s really going on here with you. From my very first post I made a clear distinction between real conservatives—people who are conservative by the standards of the place they are moving to (of which there are of course many in the blue states)—and people who aren’t, regardless of what they call themselves (of which there are also many). I’ve also made an entirely legitimate distinction between those who come to fit in and those to come with the intent to change the place.
Why don’t you explain to me how “conservative” Republicans who only care about economic conservatism but are dead set against social traditionalism, “conservatives” who are establishment hack “Never Trumpers,” “conservatives” who are really SJWs in disguise who agitate for Confederate historical monuments to be taken down, “conservatives” who are really libertarians who criticize public Christmas displays as “government establishment of religion,” “conservatives” who show contempt for or embarrassment over the Evangelical Christianity so prevalent in the South are such wonderful additions? Or are you going to laughably pretend there aren’t a great deal more of these type in the blue states than in the South?
All these people may vote Republican (at least most of the time), but they aren’t really good fits for anywhere that is still truly Southern, regardless of their party affiliation. And, yes, to tell the truth, even if they are true conservatives, if they have contempt for “redneck” Southerners and Southern culture, if they are determined to “improve” the “backwards” place they chose to move to, if they make fun of the locals and treat them as stupid, if they are contributing to radical changes in the area (all of which I have seen certain outsiders do), then yes, I don’t think they should be there.
In FL and in my native state of Virginia, I’ve personally interacted with hundreds of people from out-of-state and outside of the South. I know the range these people come in very well. Talking of what I’ve witnessed is in no way paranoia. I’ve watched as both of my states have been “de-Southernized” and their heritage, values, and traditions stomped into the ground. You really don’t understand why I might have a problem with that without seeing it as a pathology? Why is it so unacceptable to want those who want to fit in? How about opening your own mind to other points of view instead of being so closed-minded and judgmental yourself? And how about not mocking the right to survive of the culture and traditions of the place you moved to while you are at it (as you did in your post before last)?
Your “come one, come all—don’t pick only those who want to blend in or you are paranoid and isolated and miserable” argument sounds a great deal like the arguments of the left throughout the Western countries about national borders. Having spent a fair amount of time over the years in California for work and on vacation and having family there, I’ve heard both your sort of arguments and my sort of arguments about open borders and the radical changes that Mexicans coming in at such huge numbers have brought there. Throughout Europe the left pushes arguments just like yours too (everything changes, you are paranoid and isolated if you want to keep your culture and values, you must be open to all the newcomers who want to come so long as they claim they will be a good fit...). No, really, American culture, Southern culture, Texas culture have rights to exist—and it’s not some sort of evil ignorance to claim so and want only new people who want to integrate and not destroy what’s already there.
Hopefully, I’ve made my all points quite clearly already. How about we part now? I only hope you open your mind beyond that of your own personal circumstances and that you will come to accept the idea newcomers should respect local traditions, culture, and values, which was the only thing I have been advocating for on this thread.
We'll, you're wrong there. Texans are good folk, who welcomed me and mine to this state from day one. I've never once felt unwelcome here, and not a soul has ever looked down their nose at me for being from California.
The fact that you've misinterpreted my mirth and neighborly criticism as an attack, indicates your own insular state of mind, in my opinion. You've said yourself, that you're suspicious and mistrusting of conservatives who aren't from your neck of the woods.
No offence, but I find that just a bit hilarious, if not slightly disturbing.
But it's fine. You have a perfect right to be however you want to be. If you want to slam the door on your own kind, be my guest. I know the average Florida conservative is better than that.
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