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The "Open Question" On Vaccines and Autism
CBS News ^ | May 12, 2008 | Sharyl Attkisson

Posted on 04/22/2018 7:17:20 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: taxcontrol
Who controls the citizen’s health care? The government or the citizen?

The answer is pretty simple.

Most people without adequate assets to handle and pay for their own medical needs, will grudgingly and knowingly accept government control over their medical needs. Unfortunately, most medical procedures and medicines are out of the reach of the common folk. The costs are way beyond what most people can afford, so, most people look for the easy way out, be that an employer provided healthcare plan, or the government-provided options.

Problem for most people is that, no matter what option they choose, the costs will still be outrageous. Obamacare made things much worse than they used to be, and employer-provided options are still swallowing a huge amount of people's paychecks.

There is no easy and clear answer to the question, and there are no easily affordable options for most people.

So, most people will go with whatever is the more affordable options, which are not so great and not so afforable.
21 posted on 04/22/2018 8:21:07 AM PDT by adorno
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To: logi_cal869

Exactly...”But vaccines cured polio.” No. It did not. Wake the frick up, people!


22 posted on 04/22/2018 8:21:31 AM PDT by republicanbred (...and when I die I'll be republican dead.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I’m surprised anyone uses the term peer reviewed anymore after this been exposed for the fraud it is.


23 posted on 04/22/2018 8:23:46 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

For all those people who think vaccines are the cause, why don’t an overwhelming majority of kids vaccinated not end up autistic. Also, why do sets of identical twins both have autism?


24 posted on 04/22/2018 8:25:12 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: CodeToad

The sensory overload issues, failure of the kid to properly potty train, etc. Can happen even to a kid who puts their life into caring for the kid. It happens.


25 posted on 04/22/2018 8:29:06 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: republicanbred

People engage pseudo science for comfort when they are bewildered and desperate. Sorry but there is absolutely no credible scientific evidence that vaccines cause autism. The problem is that if a woman receives TDAP or any other vaccine during pregnancy, has an autistic child, there is usually much more to the history. Somehow she fails to recall that she used marijuana regularly early in her 1st trimester before she “knew” she was pregnant.


26 posted on 04/22/2018 8:29:35 AM PDT by allendale (.)
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To: allendale

Autopsy an autism head, you find lots of aluminum. The was recently reported.

Government agents make money off these kids. What you subsidize, you get more of.


27 posted on 04/22/2018 8:30:21 AM PDT by TheNext
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To: silverleaf

Sharul doesn’t seem to be an actual anti-Vaxxer. She is merely saying to look for a link, and if one is found, personalize the vaccination schedule to make sure that sensitive children can handle them in “bite-size” pieces, as it were.


28 posted on 04/22/2018 8:31:03 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The US Constitution ....... Invented by geniuses and God .... Administered by morons ......)
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To: Mears

If you have an open mind, the data is rather easy to find. Help.yourself. As new pesticides were introduced in the 40s & 50s, Polio incidence was already dropping by the time the Salk vaccine began being instituted widely.

But that’s the easy part to wrap your head around...


29 posted on 04/22/2018 8:40:06 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Lol. The shrink who came up with ADD later admitted that it was bogus. This doesn’t stop the therapeutic state from putting millions of children on speed.


30 posted on 04/22/2018 8:43:31 AM PDT by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

And why must children get vax injections??

I have not been vaxxed my entire life and I am healthier than you are.

Go stab a watermelon, and quit stabbing children, for good health that is.


31 posted on 04/22/2018 8:47:49 AM PDT by TheNext
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To: BobL
My first thought to you can’t be politely written.

I spend time with people with varying types of brain damage. They all have structural damage to their brains and they all have similar traits like zero patience, low impulse control, obsessions with certain objects, perseveration on one thought or subject.

One was born with genetic differences. One has autism. And one has Alzheimer’s. My mother was a highly educated highly professional smart as anything WELL READ CONSERVATIVE. She now has Alzheimer’s, which everyone knows becomes literal structural brain damage. She has now many symptoms of the autism spectrum, which I know so well in my life professionally and personally. I feel I am proving every single day that the traits of autism you believe come from not being beaten and slapped enough are clearly structural failures in the brain itself.

32 posted on 04/22/2018 8:49:37 AM PDT by Yaelle
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Agree!!! 30 years ago we were just called nerds or some other derogatory term. I don't generally consider being on the spectrum a bad thing. Heck, I was a child prodigy probably in part because of it.

However, I have had a rough road when dealing with unethical but socially astute scum in the corporate world. I like to get stuff done and they just want to advance at all costs... take credit from me and push me out before it's discovered. There appears to be far more of those types now than there were in the past.
33 posted on 04/22/2018 8:53:09 AM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

34 posted on 04/22/2018 8:54:20 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Q is Admiral Michael S. Rogers)
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To: logi_cal869
The fact is that Polio was on the decline before Salk came along
I don't see a pre-Salk decline at all.
The huge increase in the '50s was due to all the Baby-Boomers coming along.
35 posted on 04/22/2018 8:55:23 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Mears

It was. He’s right. Many of the worst childhood diseases were on the decline.

I was just reading about life in the poor parts of NYC in 1917 when polio was hitting. Every family seemed to be affected. Except those that got out of the town in the summer heat and stayed at the ocean. They noticed that those families didn’t lose a child to the virus.

Now if that isn’t proof that adequate vitamin d prevents the sequela of flaccid paralysis after the enterovirus, nothing is. We now know about vitamin d and should use thst knowledge, and our children won’t be affected by that ghastly symptom. Too bad our doctors don’t push therapeutic doses of vitamin d the way they do vaccines with neurological side effects. I wonder why? Aren’t FReepers trained by now to follow QUI BONO?


36 posted on 04/22/2018 8:55:36 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“Who, but a parent or family member, can and would devote the moment-by-moment attention it takes to raise an autistic child?”
_____________________________________

Robots with inexhaustible patience.


37 posted on 04/22/2018 8:58:13 AM PDT by RideForever
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Article is 10 years old. Since then, the CDC HAS done intensive studies into vaccines and autism, and used non-vaccinated people for comparison. Results? No link. None. Zero. Zip. Nada.

Game over. Thanks for playing.


38 posted on 04/22/2018 9:04:03 AM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Trump has implemented Supply Side Economics!!!)
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To: David in Cal

Prevalence of Contaminants
BY CELESTE MCGOVERN ON NOV 20, 2017 5:31:00 PM
Every Human Vaccine Tested Was Contaminated by Unsafe Levels of Metals and Debris Linked to Cancer and Autoimmune Disease, New Study Reports

Researchers examining 44 samples of 30 different vaccines found dangerous contaminants, including red blood cells in one vaccine and metal toxicants in every single sample tested – except in one animal vaccine.

Using extremely sensitive new technologies not used in vaccine manufacturing, Italian scientists reported they were “baffled” by their discoveries which included single particles and aggregates of organic debris including red cells of human or possibly animal origin and metals including lead, tungsten, gold, and chromium, that have been linked to autoimmune disease and leukemia.

In the study, published this week in the International Journal of Vaccines and Vaccination, the researchers led by Antonietta Gatti, of the National Council of Research of Italy and the Scientific Director of Nanodiagnostics, say their results “show the presence of micro- and nano-sized particulate matter composed of inorganic elements in vaccine samples” not declared in the products’ ingredients lists.

Lead particles were found in the cervical cancer vaccines, Gardasil and Cervarix, for example, and in the seasonal flu vaccine Aggripal manufactured by Novartis as well as in the Meningetec vaccine meant to protect against meningitis C.

Samples of an infant vaccine called Infarix Hexa (against diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis, hepatitis B, poliomyelitis and haemophilus influenzae type B) manufactured by GlaxoSmithKline was found to contain stainless steel, tungsten and a gold-zinc aggregate.

Other metal contaminants included platinum, silver, bismuth, iron, and chromium. Chromium (alone or in alloy with iron and nickel) was identified in 25 of the human vaccines from Italy and France that were tested.

GSK’s Fluarix vaccine for children three years and older contained 11 metals and aggregates of metals. Similar aggregates to those identified in the vaccines have been shown to be prevalent in cases of leukemia, the researchers noted.

Many of the vaccines contained iron and iron alloys which, according to the researchers, “can corrode and the corrosion products exert a toxicity affecting the tissues”.

CMSRI_Corrosive Debris Meme_v1.pngThe researchers supply an image of an area in a drop of Sanofi Pasteur MSD’s Repevax (diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus, polio) vaccine “where the morphology of red cells - we cannot tell whether they are human or animal- is clearly visible” along with the presence of “debris” composed of aluminum, bromine, silicon, potassium and titanium.

http://info.cmsri.org/the-driven-researcher-blog/dirty-vaccines-new-study-reveals-prevalence-of-contaminants


39 posted on 04/22/2018 9:08:42 AM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The problem is official resistance to even looking for a link
Because that of course means there is doubt about the governments firm position that there is no link
Catch 22
Its settled science
Like manmade Climate change

Anyone who looks for links or casts doubt on the government - is a deluded uneducated fool
And a large segment of the population is conditioned to attack any challenge


40 posted on 04/22/2018 9:10:28 AM PDT by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
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