Skip to comments.In all reality, there were three shooters. Oklahomans kill an active shooter
Posted on 07/14/2018 2:42:48 AM PDT by T-Bird45
Juan Carlos Nazario was sitting on a lakeside bench waiting to play soccer when he heard the staccato popping of gunshots outside Louies On the Lake, a popular waterfront grill and pub. He ran to his car to get his gun and moved toward the sounds.
Bryan Whittle was driving with his wife, heading off for a Memorial Day weekend getaway, when he saw a commotion outside Louies. He thought someone might be drowning, so instead of turning his truck onto the highway, he barreled into the parking lot to offer help. As he jumped out, what he learned stunned him: There was an active shooter just yards away, and wounded victims were holed up in the restaurants bathroom.
Whittle, too, grabbed his gun.
In a matter of seconds, the two armed citizens became self-appointed protectors, moving to take up positions around the shooter, drawing their weapons and shouting for him to drop his. Time stretched and warped. There was an exchange of gunfire. The gunman was hit several times and fell. As Nazario and Whittle converged over the man to restrain him, police arrived. Unsure who was who, officers handcuffed all of the men and put them on the ground as the shooter bled out into the grass and died.
(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...
Extensive article, but did I miss this? What did the first guy go nuts over to start this mess?
Well, kinda. Had they not said this:
In a matter of seconds, the two armed citizens became self-appointed protectors,...
Their attempt to show vigilantism.
I don’t read it that way. Police couldn’t be there and they unflinchingly stepped into the breach. I think it is a positive thing.
When seconds count, the self-appointed protectors are there within seconds. The police, however....
The gunman thought he was under attack by demonic transexuals. No joke. The gunman was known to police as a loony and somehow he still had access to a firearm.
Those pushing gun control say it never happens.
Remember all the warnings about multiple defenders shooting each other, and the police getting in gun fights with them?
Here is a real world example, and none of the hypotheticals happened.
People who have made the decision to be unarmed, make up these hypotheticals as excuses to justify their decision.
Texas tower shooting in the 60’s, I think the guy that shot the sniper was a ex - navy guy deputized on the spot by a local Police officer.
Funny I read it as them being brave.
Self appointed executioners is what I would expect from them.
I hope we never find out.
Our natural tendency to want to know why plays into the shooters desire for fame and notoriety. The shooter desperately wants to tell the whole World about his delusions and grievances. We should not accommodate him.
Ultimately, it is always some damn stupid nutball thing. There is never a satisfactory explanation. People died because the shooter was a crazy delusional jerk. The particulars dont matter.
When I was learning to golf, whenever I would shank one into the woods, I would ask what I did wrong. My rather taciturn father would just say Why do you want to know, do you want to do it again? Often the search for what went wrong is counterproductive.
I like stories like this;)
Happened over Memorial Day weekend so that might be how you missed it and it also didn’t fit the media narrative so it fell out of coverage pretty quickly. The first guy went nuts because he was nuts, period. It’s covered in the article how this guy was missed in various screenings, including a psychological exam required for taking a course and getting licensed as an armed security guard. If you’re familiar with psychological tests, it’s the MMPI - Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory. Any glitches in the scoring gets you an interview with the psych.
No. He was a State or local LEO.
To be fair to the looney with many transsexuals you have to wonder about demon possession ";^)
"but"? What is that supposed to convey to me sitting in my chair? That I have to limit my self-defense to my little town's wife-beaters and angry drunks and whatever faces I've seen on "Crime Watch"?
I'm seeing zero out of 160 shootings that were stopped by on-duty law enforcement shooting the guy. Maybe some of the suicides are the guy shooting himself when he sees ten guns pointed at him, but that's another matter.
“In a matter of SECONDS, the two armed citizens became self-appointed protectors,...”
When SECONDS count, the police are only minutes away.
I read a significant amount of bias from the author. The tone throughout is that armed civilians, especially those of lesser experience with firearms, create an environment of confusion and uncertainty in situations such as these, where responses by LEOs in similar circumstances are usually the opposite. Basically, the author deviously suggests this was a rare situation where the two heroes were well-trained, an uncommon situation, and also lucky with regard to how it all played out, and that more often than not it won’t end so well.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.