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Why Your Vote Hasn’t Mattered Since 1913
The daily bell ^ | 6OCT18 | By Joe Jarvis

Posted on 10/07/2018 7:29:48 PM PDT by vannrox

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To: vannrox

Creation of the Federal Reserve was the worst thing this country has ever done.


21 posted on 10/07/2018 9:06:41 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: dp0622

Woodrow Willson. End of Story.


22 posted on 10/07/2018 9:28:32 PM PDT by acapesket (all happy now?)
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To: acapesket

Can you elaborate please? i’m lost when one goes further back than FDR!!


23 posted on 10/07/2018 9:51:50 PM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: All

Hear ye, hear ye.


24 posted on 10/07/2018 10:04:42 PM PDT by veracious (UN=OIC=Islam ; Dems may change USAgov completely, just amend USConstitution)
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To: vannrox

Bookmark.


25 posted on 10/07/2018 10:12:13 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono
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To: Impy

In our system of checks and balances, right now the States do not have representation in the Senate- why are you against the States having representation?


26 posted on 10/07/2018 10:26:23 PM PDT by Gigantor (Either the United States respects its Constitution, or there is no need for a United States.)
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To: acapesket

Bro, why would you PRIVATE MAIL me an a##hole response? :)

I think the whole board should know what a nasty arrogant a##hole you are :)

No it’s not your job to teach American History.

But like I said, it must be your job to be a d### :)

And you deserve a raise :)


27 posted on 10/07/2018 10:32:06 PM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: vette6387

The GOP would have a 64-36 majority.


28 posted on 10/07/2018 10:39:58 PM PDT by rfp1234 (I have already previewed this composition.)
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To: Gigantor

By “the states” you seem to be mean the 7,383 state legislators. They DO get representation, they get 1 vote just like everyone else.


29 posted on 10/07/2018 11:05:35 PM PDT by Impy (I have no virtue to signal)
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To: Impy

You clearly do not understand the role of the states in the Republic. Zot yourself for a silly post.


30 posted on 10/07/2018 11:18:29 PM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
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To: BillyBoy; Gigantor; Repeal The 17th; Henry Hnyellar; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; LS; ...

I recall Ted Cruz came out in favor of it a few years ago. That was ironic since the Texas Leg, led by RINO Speaker Joe Staruss and RINO Lt. Governor David Dewhurst would have with 100% certainty elected Dewhurst (hmmmmmmm funny how that works eh?) whilst GOP primary voters instead selected Cruz.

You could forget about any decent Senators being elected because RINOS and democrats would team up to elect RINOs in every GOP-controlled state. Talk about an “open primary”!!!!!!! Alaska RINOs have teamed with rats to control the State House there, can you say “Senator for Life Lisa Murkowski”?

Sick of talking about this stupid crap. It isn’t even ON THE TABLE AND NEVER WILL BE. Try campaigning on it, you’d get friggin laughed at. The previous method of election was crappy and not working with seats left vacant whenever legislatures were too closely divide and elites bickered behind CLOSED DOORS. That’s why the 17th was OVERWHELMINGLY APPROVED.

In 1877 Illinois democrats used the Senate election in an attempt to bribe Supreme Court Justice David Davis into making rat Sam Tilden President. They didn’t count on Davis having a shred of integrity so it blew up in their faces. This is the kind of crap we should pining for a return to?

GIVING MORE POWER TO A BUNCH OF POLITICIANS IS STUPID BECAUSE ****DUH****. It’s not rocket science. Stop pining for an idealized past that NEVER ACTUALLY EXISTED and use your BRAIN people. You expect a bunch of politicians being given MORE power and the people they represent LESS will make things BETTER? That’s loony tunes. The problem with our country is not electoral process it’s the existence of socialist pigs and weak-willed sissy “conservatives” (guess what? State legislatures are full of both). The pigs in my state leg don’t speak for ME. The people of the states are “the states” and they don’t need a small handful of middlemen to elect the most powerful legislature in the world for them.

The Senate was different from the House in 3 ways,

1)Equal representation for all states, by far the most important difference. You have liberals now proposing DC and Puerto Rico Statehood to solve their “We’re not gonna win the Senate and that’s not ‘fair’” problem. We’re gonna propose a more elitist Senate while they’re doing that? That would play right into their hands.

2)Term Length

3)Method of election was a distant third, stop fixating on it.

Ridiculous nonsense.

If you’re looking for a failed “reform” to eliminate I’d suggest civil service “reform”. Back in the day Republican Presidents could hire Republicans to work at the post office and stuff, democrat Presidents hired democrats. Now they’re all democrats all the time, fair huh? I doubt we could succeed in bringing back the spoils system but at least it would HELP US if we did. Tilt at the windmill.


31 posted on 10/07/2018 11:38:13 PM PDT by Impy (I have no virtue to signal)
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To: Impy

I agree with you.


32 posted on 10/07/2018 11:54:59 PM PDT by ZULU (MAGA)
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To: kingattax

The Tenth Amendment is IGNORED.


33 posted on 10/07/2018 11:55:38 PM PDT by ZULU (MAGA)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Throw in ending Birthright Citizenship and this country is on the path to a GREATNESS that isn’t even conceivable.

Accept only the best and brightest to be allowed in and there is no limit.


34 posted on 10/08/2018 12:18:09 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: ZULU

absolutely.

we have to keep in mind that the govt derives its power only by the consent of the governed.

will we ever see the like of jefferson, madison, and the adamses again ?


35 posted on 10/08/2018 12:21:26 AM PDT by kingattax (99% of liberals give the rest of the mental defectives a bad name !)
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To: ZULU

I’m glad someone does! ;)


36 posted on 10/08/2018 12:32:00 AM PDT by Impy (I have no virtue to signal)
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To: vannrox; Impy

@vannrox: Outstanding post!
@Impy: Excellent tag line!


37 posted on 10/08/2018 12:40:42 AM PDT by Theophilus (Repent)
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To: vannrox

1913 was the official dawn of the American brand of communism: Progressivism.

Wisconsin gets much of the foul credit for creating this destructive subversion of our Constitutional government.


38 posted on 10/08/2018 12:41:37 AM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: Impy; vannrox; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; LS
It used to be much more difficult for a state legislator to be a "career politician" but then that's yet another emerging problem.

As a resident of the Commonwealth of the turtle, I think we are Exhibit A of how the current career Senator system isn't working.

39 posted on 10/08/2018 12:47:17 AM PDT by Theophilus (Repent)
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To: vannrox

The Second Law of Thermodynamics states that there is a natural tendency of any isolated system to degenerate into a more disordered state. The US Congress is proof.


40 posted on 10/08/2018 1:46:22 AM PDT by HarleyD
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