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California Bill Would Force Pastors And Priests To Tell What They Heard In Confession
The Federalist ^ | February 26, 2019 | Holly Scheer

Posted on 02/26/2019 10:38:25 AM PST by detective

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To: detective

I we as citizens required to report when deep state officials openly admit to crimes in public ?


21 posted on 02/26/2019 11:12:26 AM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: detective

California is the communists capital of America. This damn State is so far left that it beginning to look like Mexico’s annex.


22 posted on 02/26/2019 11:14:45 AM PST by Logical me
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So... um...
Catholic priests are going to give up illegal aliens who are going to there parishes? Is that what California hopes to achieve? Or is California going to dismiss those confessions and only consider other types of confessions.

Seems to me California will pick and choose the confessions that they are willing to prosecute. But I will say this - not everybody confesses fully to their priest. My father once told me there are some things you just take to the grave ... And from what I have observed over the years there are plenty of people that take a lot of stuff to the grave... either that or they ask for the Lord’s forgiveness on their own... and they don’t need a crowd to do that.

It is asking the Lords forgiveness a Christian fundamental that secular politicians and legislators just can’t seem to grasp?


23 posted on 02/26/2019 11:15:27 AM PST by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: GingisK
Not that the Apostles needed a Biblical basis. They authored the New Testament. Their authority and duty came from Christ, not from the Bible.

Why would they need biblical permission for enacting the sacraments (e.g. Baptism, Reconciliation, The Sacrifice of the Eucharist)? They were doing those things for years before the Gospels were written down.

But anyway - here you go:

"If you forgive anyone his sins, they are forgiven; if you withhold forgiveness from anyone, it is withheld."

24 posted on 02/26/2019 11:23:16 AM PST by agere_contra (Please pray for Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: GingisK

John 20:21-23:

Jesus said to them again, “Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I send you.” And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.”

Not only this. You said: “Actual Christians...”. So, Catholics are not Christians in your world view? I tend to disagree. Study history, that’s why I converted back in the 80s.

Also, you mentioned one can go straight to the Father for forgiveness. True. But Jesus gave that power to the ones He put in charge of the church also.


25 posted on 02/26/2019 11:29:31 AM PST by Deepeasttx
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To: detective

Just how do they enforce this?


26 posted on 02/26/2019 11:34:00 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (The internet has driven the world mad.)
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To: SkyDancer

More to the point, as someone dealing with the same thing said in Australia, “This is a foreign state’s law overriding our civil law, which is there to protect children, it shouldn’t have any say at all.”


27 posted on 02/26/2019 11:36:44 AM PST by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: SaxxonWoods
Just how do they enforce this?

I agree. I work as a chaplain. We promise confidentiality.

Then my boss comes along and starts citing the exemptions to the confidentially clause - He is probably worried about a lawsuit.

But I tell folks there are many things I will take to the grave.

Ben Franklin liked to say "Three can keep a secret, if two of them are dead!"

28 posted on 02/26/2019 11:40:56 AM PST by Dustoff45
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To: detective

And at the same time, they pass a bill making pedophilia a “sexual orientation”. Go figure.


29 posted on 02/26/2019 11:43:39 AM PST by antidemoncrat
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To: sparklite2

Like lawyer/doctor as well.


30 posted on 02/26/2019 11:44:51 AM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: SkyDancer

Well, no, lawyer/doctor isn’t being imposed by a foreign state.


31 posted on 02/26/2019 11:49:30 AM PST by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: Kozy

Thank you for sharing your irrelevant feelings.


32 posted on 02/26/2019 11:51:08 AM PST by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: laplata
Catholic priests have died horrible deaths for not revealing what they heard in confession.

True.

Unfortunately, Rome demonstrated it cannot police itself.

This development will follow here and around the world, I expect.

33 posted on 02/26/2019 11:55:07 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: agere_contra
"If you forgive anyone his sins, they are forgiven; if you withhold forgiveness from anyone, it is withheld."

Greek...

"If you forgive anyone his sins, they are already forgiven; if you withhold forgiveness from anyone, it is already withheld."

It was the proclamation that the meaning of Christ's death is that sins were forgiven to those who received His gift, or not forgiven to those who do not.

It was not a sacrament that bestowed forgiveness or withheld forgiveness.

34 posted on 02/26/2019 11:59:01 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: sparklite2

What I was referring to was priest/confessor relationship; same as lawyer/doctor.


35 posted on 02/26/2019 12:01:06 PM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: detective

As soon as such a law is passed such confessions will cease. Authorities will accuse priests of lying about that because they know that there are x number of such confessions per 10000 people.The corrective new law to that will be insistence that all confessionals be wired.


36 posted on 02/26/2019 12:06:12 PM PST by arthurus (l_Đ(...../)
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To: Jacquerie
Sorry catholic priests are homosexual and pedophiles. Pope supports their actions too.
37 posted on 02/26/2019 12:07:06 PM PST by Kozy (new age haruspex; "Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth.")
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To: LilRhody

Unless you are making a face to face confession, how does a priest know who you are? Our church gives the option of both a confession behind a screen or face to face. Sometimes people don’t always go to the same church for confession.

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You don’t know how Communists and NAZI’s do things.

A suspect would go to confession and the Gestapo would wait for the suspect to leave and immediately nab the Priest and interrogate him. That’s only one example.


38 posted on 02/26/2019 12:10:03 PM PST by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I agree.


39 posted on 02/26/2019 12:11:59 PM PST by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: detective

so they’re trying to pass a bill that already exists?


40 posted on 02/26/2019 12:12:30 PM PST by SendShaqtoIraq
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